The community trust will run it not Wakefield Trinity same arrangement as NM.

It will be a community stadium, not belonging to Wakefield Trinity.

No one is asking the Council to prop up Wakefield Trinity. All that is being asked is that Yorkcourt and the Council fulfill and deliver the obligations that were agreed on receipt of a Planning Consent following the Public Inquiry which was to deliver a Community Stadium for the residents of Wakefield.

By the way, whilst I'm not a fan of the Hepworth I think it's fantastic for the City and the majority of the funding came from Grants and Yorkshire Forward, the Regional Development Agency and not Wakefield MDC.

Looking at warringtons ground that could fit on Belle Vue and the covered terrace would be ideal for the west terrace, flattened the western terrace is bigger than you think and the pitch can be moved east a few metres if needed, this can be the home stand like Warrington HKR Leeds. Redeveloping BV is doable it's not as land locked as people suggest and it can be done it NM is a def non starter.

It didn't - the bulk of the funding was from grants, as has already been pointed out; and I imagine there was someone leading a campaign - those funding bids don't write themselves.

I can't see the point in comparing the two - fight for a stadium by all means, but don't cry foul at The Hepworth; it's been an unqualified success and enjoyed by many more people in one year than will visit a community stadium in ten.

It's Yorkcourt I'm annoyed at - they appear to have done a fine job of fleecing their way out of a legally binding agreement.

I don't recall that the council were putting any money into the stadium. It was to come from the developers and various grants. I may be wrong and I am sure I will be corrected by those in the know and probably one or two who aren't.

I for one would never cry foul of the Hepworth, however the fact that they can conjure up money for one thing then plead poverty when it comes to a community stadium is something else.

You are also bang on about Yorkcourt ,but who should have ensured that the document they have now fleeced their way out of was water tight.

This country is full of countless new stadiums, they are everywhere. Yet how many attempts have the clowns at WMDC made to get one for our City, is Newmarket the 4th abject failure ?

I predict a scrubbed up Belle Vue is the only thing that will emerge from this stadium fiasco. No where near the grand plans many people will have us believe.
I hope I'm wrong but I'm sure I'm %99.9 right.

You my friend are bang on especially if scrubbed refers to one tin of end of the line paint from BM stores.

From what I ear , the only hope we have achieving anything (the bear minimum) is for M/C to carry out his threat of judicial review. Pickles , Box ( and his planners) Mackie (and his lawyers ) have screwed us big & proper.

As said there is no legal obligation from Yorkcourt's POV to do anything so I'm inclined to expect nada from them. They quietly screwed everyone over the 106 agreement so why would they pay up millions when they don't have to. Moral obligations don't get very far in a developers world.

Sorry but you are actually wrong there. They are legally obliged in the sense that although they don't have to build the stadium at NM they can't actually do anything with the land without the consent of the Trust. Basically IF the Trust appealed that they are in breach of the original agreement and went to court they would win and the site would remain forever undeveloped - not what a developer wants. They have to develop a sports facility on the land fit for the use of WTRLFC and the community or offer an alternative - that's not changed. What has changed is that because of a change of use clause which was missed by all they no longer have to build a stadium before they complete the rest of the development or that's how I understood it after the last SWAG meeting.

In reality though all that creates is two sets of losers.

What YC want to do is extricate themselves from the agreement as cheaply as possible which is what all these meetings are about. We won't get NM imho or anything like the money it would have cost to build NM but whatever we get may be enough to get us started at BV.

My guess and it's pure speculation is that we will regain BV and the Superbowl and perhaps 1-2 million to start us off. In other word a 3-4 million pound package. Way short of NM and a bargain IMHO for YC and tbh we will have been lucky if we get it.

The other option and the worst one IMHO is that Yorkcourt just go bust and the land just gets past on and we lose track of it and it lays empty for years and we get nothing and knowing our luck .

Wrong, nothing to do with MC. It's Rodney Walker and the Trust who would take any legal action if required. People need to get their heads around the fact that it's the Wakefield Sports Trust who will fund, design and own the facility and it is the Trust and not the Club to whom the perceived screwing has been done.

Box and the Council are partly responsible for not spotting the clause and can be held accountable to a degree.

Absolutely nothing to do with Pickles or his ministry.