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| Quote Fordy="Fordy"I can tell you that our coach agrees with you - he said exactly that at "Celebrate Wakefield" last night.'"
I am Richard Agar and I claim my five pounds (of Haribos.)
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| Quote vastman="vastman"For me Smith has been fine all season just took his team mates a while. In this new world where any criticism however reasonable is jumped on by fishcake and co dare I make one - of course I dare. He needs to develop his running game a little (not much he's not that kind of player) - he can Ido it I've seen it. If he doesn't he will become easier to coach against next season which is kinda what happened to him in Oz.
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I thought his running game developed as the season went on tbh but like you say he could try it a little more to mix things up. The biggest improvement for me was his kicking game, was very hit and miss in the first half of the season but came on leaps and bounds in the second half.
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| Quote Fred Gee="Fred Gee"His form mid season was poor...booing a wakey player never making your feelings known constructively..then yes. The problem with Smith is /was he came to us in our current manifestation as quite a big marquee signing...he set off like a house on fire at widnes and then his and the teams form went down hill. He is clearly a confidence player and at the moment yes he is one of the best scrum halves in the league. I am surprised quality teams have not sussed him out when defending tho he comes from the same scholl of inside ball as jamie rooney ! Hope he keeps it up next season.'"
You said this earlier on in the season and basically called him a one trick pony. 34 Try assists in a regular season and you are still criticising!
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| Quote Fred Gee="Fred Gee"I am surprised quality teams have not sussed him out when defending tho he comes from the same scholl of inside ball as jamie rooney ! '"
Really!!!!??????
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If he really was a one trick inside ball pony then teams would have sussed him out...yet they haven't.
Seems to me Fred Gee you have made the case for Smith perfectly
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| And I think you were on the previous thread mid season about the inside ball Fred. It was explained then but I’ll do it again for your benefit.
Tim Smith does like the inside ball. It is a tactic designed to stop the opposition sliding across to cover our wide play. If you are a clever passer of the ball and as in Smith’s case also good at selecting the right pass then this is a great tactic.
When Smith hits the winger or centre with a long pass, he hasn’t decided to do that just because he has seen someone out of position. He planned it 6 tackles earlier and was dragging them in with the inside ball.
You can see him clearly shouting people in to position for every play.
Also, we clearly have an inside-inside ball move that is very effective down the middle. Huddersfield has done it on us in the past. He runs at big defenders and passes inside to usually Mathers, who then immediately passes inside to Cockayne. Smith drew the first defender, Mathers drew the second, leaving the gap. Don’t do it right and you get clobbered but I’ve seen it work at least 6 times this year.
So I’m happy with Smith’s inside ball.
I think you need to watch the game more closely Fred.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"And I think you were on the previous thread mid season about the inside ball Fred. It was explained then but I’ll do it again for your benefit.
Tim Smith does like the inside ball. It is a tactic designed to stop the opposition sliding across to cover our wide play. If you are a clever passer of the ball and as in Smith’s case also good at selecting the right pass then this is a great tactic.
When Smith hits the winger or centre with a long pass, he hasn’t decided to do that just because he has seen someone out of position. He planned it 6 tackles earlier and was dragging them in with the inside ball.
You can see him clearly shouting people in to position for every play.
Also, we clearly have an inside-inside ball move that is very effective down the middle. Huddersfield has done it on us in the past. He runs at big defenders and passes inside to usually Mathers, who then immediately passes inside to Cockayne. Smith drew the first defender, Mathers drew the second, leaving the gap. Don’t do it right and you get clobbered but I’ve seen it work at least 6 times this year.
So I’m happy with Smith’s inside ball.
I think you need to watch the game more closely Fred.'"
My god...I see sense! 
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"And I think you were on the previous thread mid season about the inside ball Fred. It was explained then but I’ll do it again for your benefit.
Tim Smith does like the inside ball. It is a tactic designed to stop the opposition sliding across to cover our wide play. If you are a clever passer of the ball and as in Smith’s case also good at selecting the right pass then this is a great tactic.
When Smith hits the winger or centre with a long pass, he hasn’t decided to do that just because he has seen someone out of position. He planned it 6 tackles earlier and was dragging them in with the inside ball.
You can see him clearly shouting people in to position for every play.
Also, we clearly have an inside-inside ball move that is very effective down the middle. Huddersfield has done it on us in the past. He runs at big defenders and passes inside to usually Mathers, who then immediately passes inside to Cockayne. Smith drew the first defender, Mathers drew the second, leaving the gap. Don’t do it right and you get clobbered but I’ve seen it work at least 6 times this year.
So I’m happy with Smith’s inside ball.
I think you need to watch the game more closely Fred.'"
This - great explanation.
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