I'm beginning to suspect that FFF is a Richardson; given the username, I know which one I'm leaning towards.

But surely the use of the word fan, could be misleading?

Not jumping to the Richardsons defence but I suspect it's our old mate from Huddersfield or perhaps an even darker name from long ago who's name we dare not say. TBH I doubt the Richardsons can be all that bothered, not everyone is as demented or anal as some of the posters on here.

bang out of order.

i just question what i'm told.

look at my original post. challenge the points i have raised. our expectations have been inflated all along. to date there have been big expectations that we have all had based on what we've been drip fed, and less significant delivery against these on all occasions.

in answer to jt

i have no problem with us spending up to the full cap in the third year. however that's not what we were led to think throughout this year. we thought it was all along, hence the dissapointment in the players we have been signing. glover is undermining the season ticket offer if he appoints agar and a man that only a few short years ago was shoving the finger up to our core support.

i never said that we wouldn't re-develop belle vue to the tune of £500k, i did ask what people thought the odds were of that happening in full given the underwhelming delivery against all points to date. i thank you for your pity. i am as concerned about our great club, apologies to all for giving a hoot.

Here we go again anyone that doesn’t conform to the consensus it labelled in a derogatory manor. FFF is clearly stating his opinions in the new regime and he is labelled a Richardson! It’s the exact same situation as 2 years ago in reverse.

Fwiw OP makes some Valid points about Glovers spin that can’t be denied. But I understand that’s the game he has to play to keep that positive aurora around the club. Just look at Dickie Wright, his spin machine has had whole RL community fooled for the last 5 years.

My biggest problem is that Glover delegates too much power to JE who I think is out of his depth. I seems to me he has got where he has by been an ultimate boot licker, been all things to all men, tell everyone what they want to hear. With the appointment of his buddy Agar he has gone too far and abused his position. At the end of the day what can we do? We simply have to accept the decision and get behind the team and hope everything works out. As already been said if it turns out to be a disaster Elston should be as much to blame as anyone else.

If Agar is announced, how can elston show his ugly mug again.

Please tell me you didn't think my comment was serious speculation that FFF was a Richardson?!

Non-conformity is fine - I certainly don't advocate blind faith in Mr G and Co; there is a halfway house though between blind faith and relentless negativity.

The fact is nearly all the points he's made are neither hear nor there at this point, we haven't even finished this year yet or finished signing players, apart from that stuff like Glover walking away in 18 months, no way of knowing so no point bringing it up unless your just stirring.
If the ground improvements don't go ahead, then we'll talk about it, why try to make a issue before anything has even had a chance to start. Why does it matter if Elston has no business experience outside Rugby, not his job and Glover has.
I think who ever the overseas signing was wasn't Semi and whoever it was fell through.
I don't understand why someone would make a big critical list , when most of it hasn't happened yet or hasn't give the club a chance to prove itself.

Going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I don't remember that being the case. Wasn't Kear the man that most (myself included) wanted, baring in mind that names such as Jimmy Lowes were also banded about at the time?

I think Agar could do very well with us relatively speaking, if he does get the gig - fingers crossed he comes good.

I recall and I may be wrong that Kear was considered the Hull/Cas reject by many myself included. He didn't gain much momentum until Wiggy and Thicko backed him along with Neil Fox which was the one that really swung it. I wouldn't say he was unpopular but wasn't popular either.

I reckon we have all allowed ourselves to get caught up in our own OTT idea as to what a great club we are. Looking from the outside we must still look a very poor bet especially to the likes of Gentle. Lets face it he isn't going to leave where he is to join a club like us or Cas, there's taking a risk and being plain stupid.

Wouldn't mind eating my words on that last line though

we should only talk about things that have already happened. i expect to read no futher comments from you on any speculation surrounding potential signings (be they players of coaching/backroom staff), or in threads about how we are likley to perform.

most of the points i made have already happened, so your comment is totally innacurate.

the two other bits of speculation where i asked about what the odds were on certain things occuring, are things that could happen and may or may not be worthy of debate.

Cant see your logic here at all.