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| Quote: spook2011 "how about [sizedisenfranchisement[/size?'"
Instead of new words, [sizeSHAFTED[/size works equally as well
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| Quote: vastman "I live with the satisfaction that we relegated you twice on the pitch whilst you could only manage it with the help of the RFL and it's franchise book.
As for storming the pitch you are past masters that. Thank god the gay supporters club didn't run a trip to the Bungle that day as you and your six finger friends would have had a field day gay bashing.'"
Thats a bit harsh, I take it you have given up on a franchise?
After viewing "Boots n All" it seems to think WTWC are just one of many teams that may get the drop. Interesting that Salford weren't mentioned along with Castleford. Salford, apart from the ground, surely are much weaker in the application than yourselves?
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| Quote: tigers2009 "like you did when we got relegated hey .. how things change'"
The difference being we're not being relegated,we're being kicked out!!!
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| Quote: spook2011 "how about [sizedisenfranchisement[/size?'"
I've said before and will say it again [size SACRIFICED[/size
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| Quote: Mutley Cat "which time are you referring to? either way the reception out side the local watering holes in cas was disgraceful .
unfortunately somethings never change and no matter how many millions C4 pour into your town the bloody mindedness of of the locals will forever remain in WF10'"
I still remember the day we beat Cas 17-0 (I think) in a game which kick started our surge out of the relegation zone. Id just published Issue 1 of my fanzine, and I'll be frank with you, I was friends with many Castleford fans through both the tag games we had with them and through the help I received from the editors of Castlefords fanzine when starting mine up. I met up with them on Wheldon Road and exchanged copies and thanked them for their help. My bright idea was to have a pint in the pub opposite the ground and see if I could sell a few to opposition fans (as Id bought many from other clubs during the years).
I entered with two friends so not to do it alone, and within 20 seconds we were split up and the hostility reminded me of the beginning sketch to the Blade film where the guy gets tossed around and beaten up by vampires. I never got beat up, but I was quickly pushed into a corner and faced some verbal abuse of which exceeded anything that Ive given to anyone in my life (and I'll admit, Ive given some). You could tell that it was going to kick off at some point during the afternoon, so I quickly managed to get out and was relieved when the other two friends exited too in one piece.
After the game, it did kick off but I wont go into it as its not the time or the place to be discussing it again, but it wasnt nice. And just for the record, I sold 206 copies that day, but not one to our fellow neighbours !! (The spoilsports).
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| Quote: vastman "I live with the satisfaction that we relegated you twice on the pitch whilst you could only manage it with the help of the RFL and it's franchise book.
As for storming the pitch you are past masters that. Thank god the gay supporters club didn't run a trip to the Bungle that day as you and your six finger friends would have had a field day gay bashing.'"
Your doing a good job of upsetting the rest of SL you didn't relegate us, we did it ourselves with 2 poor seasons worth of results. You had a hand in it like the rest of the teams, along with the cheating pies.
Hopefully we won't get any trouble if we do how can we class ourselves as a family sport, and that to me is one of the reasons i like our sport it's something we can do as a family feeling safe, lets not go down that route haven't the great unwashed taken over too many things in this country already.
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| Our great comeback at your place this year. You were taunting us all through the game and then after the game when you guys lost most of you all caused trouble instead of congradulating us. We aint down yet folks !!!
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| Most of us caused trouble, mmm been on the meths again. Yep you did well to come back and win all credit to you guys but where is this leading........
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42181_1527427546.jpg "I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "Our great comeback at your place this year. You were taunting us all through the game and then after the game when you guys lost most of you all caused trouble instead of congradulating us. We aint down yet folks !!!'"
Will you be congradulating us on Tuesday should we receive a franchise?
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| I'm sure he will find it to be a truly poptablious moments!
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| there is one possible that everyone is overlooking (although remote as i beleive we are gone alone)
what will happen if both wakey and cas are "shafted/disenfranchised" etc.
i wonder if the atmosphere will be different?....
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| Quote: miamivice "there is one possible that everyone is overlooking (although remote as i beleive we are gone alone)
what will happen if both wakey and cas are "shafted/disenfranchised" etc.
i wonder if the atmosphere will be different?....'"
One goes down the other stays up we will be fighting
Both go down we will be uniteing (in anger not merging)
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| Quote: Spook2011 "My memory is not the relegatioon battle but rather is from 95 when we played Cas at the end of the last winter season... we were expecting a merged team to go into Superleague at that time but Cas had already decided to go it alone.... they destroyed what was ostensibly a Trinity junior team.
one of the worst days in my time as a Trinity fan! but at least there was a way back then!'"
Quote: Spook2011 "Remember it well. Victory was nice but the end of that season was a total damp squib.
Not sure it was a junior team you had out though
Certainly wasn't a strong team as I remember half the first team being stood on the terraces laughing as they had already lined up contracts elsewhere.
It's one of those times that you realise that for the majority of players it's just a job and they will never feel the same way about "our" club as we do as fans.
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| One of the consequences of the RFLs current policy won't be seen for ten or fifteen years and even then most of those who are still following the sport won't connect the two.
Without a Wakefield Trinity and the stars it creates to follow many, of the young kids will never take Rugby League to their hearts. A drastic reduction of adult supporters means an equal or higher reduction in junior supporters and therefore the loss of potential future fans and players.
Without a Neil Fox there might not have been a David Topliss, without a Derek Turner there might not have been a Trevor Skerrett, without a Keith Holiday there might not have been a Nigel Bell, without an Alan McCurrie there might not have been a Billy Conway, without a Graham Idle there might not have been a Gareth Ellis or a Ben Westwood and so on and so on.
Wakefield is one of the most fertile breeding grounds of quality Rugby League players in the world, up there with Wigan, but if you stop sowing the seeds then a few years down the line there's nothing to harvest. Worse than that, something else grows in it's place and when football finally wins the day in Wakefield there will be no way back for Rugby League. You don't begin strengthening a structure by knocking out one of the supporting pillars which hold the whole thing up!
The decisions of Lewis, Wood & Rimmer have a far greater reach than the next three years, their impact will last decades and may even inflict irreparable damage to the game. The direction in which these three are leading the game alongside the near amputation of Cumbria, the artificial loss of a strong Wakefield club and who knows who's next it is bordering on a level of incompetence that is almost criminal.
I'm not against expansion but you cannot artificially create a Rugby League culture where none existed and expect success. Expansion has to begin at the very foot of the game with constant, persistent and quality exposure to the sport within primary schools, kids summer coaching camps and secondary schools. You have to be realistic in your goals and understand that the outcome might not be hundreds of players, it might only be the the creation of a generation of young parents who have an affinity to the game. Those parents are like the early settlers of the wild west, it will take three generations of constant support to eventually create a culture.
You must do all this, you must be 100% committed to supporting this with every resource at your disposal and you must be willing to accept that it might or more likely will fail.
The provision of amateur facilities and the creation of local amateur clubs is the next step forward, then and only then do you begin to see a community of Rugby League followers who might one day form or support the formation of a semi-professional club playing in the lowest division of the RFLs league structure.
That league structure must be established, rigid and have integrity, it must be consistent in it's rules or else it becomes open to the corrupting influences of ambitious individuals who seek to circumvent it at the expense of those who compete within it.
IMO that is the only way to expand the game but it's a slow methodical process that would not deliver immediate results. Unfortunately we are governed by men who lack the vision to adopt such a system, they are men who desire the kudos of basking in the glory of their paper thin achievements.
I have no doubt that they understand their folly but such is their desire to make an instant mark that they will always be susceptible to a man with money promising the world on a stick.
Wake up fellas!
Nothing worth having ever came easy!
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