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| Regarding Shaul I believe we won 2 with him at full back but we also won 2 with Jowitt and still looked impressive. I think it was to do more with a combined effort of the team who found something to motivate them all rather than the full back.
Both Shaul and Jowitt looked good in their 2/3 games each at back end but the team was on the front foot and playing some good stuff in attack and defence.
Shaul certainly wasn’t one of the main reasons. I believe Miller and in general the players had a shift in motivations and effort across the board.
That’s not to say Shaul wasn’t good. He was good for us. But Mac was also good back end and I’d rather invest in another area first loose/second row or prop then see if we’ve anything left for a Shaul.
I’ll happily support Shaul or Jowitt and both are good. Jowitt is the future though and I suppose we will see as signings are announced.
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| Much like a GK in football, if they're a bit shaky the whole team look jittery. Whilst he did well when he played, he looks very suspect under a bomb, and it put us off against Catalans when he dropped that early ball. Jowitt, I don't believe I have ever seen him drop one. No matter the pressure or kick, or indeed weather, he taking most of those.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Much like a GK in football, if they're a bit shaky the whole team look jittery. Whilst he did well when he played, he looks very suspect under a bomb, and it put us off against Catalans when he dropped that early ball. Jowitt, I don't believe I have ever seen him drop one. No matter the pressure or kick, or indeed weather, he taking most of those.'"
You are right about Max. He inspires confidence when taking a high kick.
However, for me, he doesn't inspire confidence when managing the defensive line. It's his only flaw really but its a big one.
Shaul is great at managing he defense. That's why he's valuable.
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| Quote: PopTart "You are right about Max. He inspires confidence when taking a high kick.
However, for me, he doesn't inspire confidence when managing the defensive line. It's his only flaw really but its a big one.
Shaul is great at managing he defense. That's why he's valuable.'"
He did exactly that though in the games towards back end of the season. Watch on trinity tv if you want. You will see him pulling players into gaps and pushing the line out etc. Hes not bad at it but it’s clear he’s making improvements in it.
Shaul at Jowitts age wasn’t a defensive player and was an off the cuff attacker I seem to recall. It’s probably the last part of a full backs game developed in their late 20/early 30s. Jowitts soon to enter those years.
Plus Jowitt is much better in joining the line and creating try scoring opportunities and fielding kicks than Shaul is.
I’d support either but I’d rather we invested in other positions first.
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| Quote: Mary Millington "Holmes isn't a bad player but not what we need right now. He's in the 30 club and we need younger legs in that back row.'"
IMHO he’d be a decent signing if it doesn’t cost Trinity too much. Has some ability (but had a poor last season) and at least another 2-3 years left in him with something to prove (type of player Trinity pick up).
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Much like a GK in football, if they're a bit shaky the whole team look jittery. Whilst he did well when he played, he looks very suspect under a bomb, and it put us off against Catalans when he dropped that early ball. Jowitt, I don't believe I have ever seen him drop one. No matter the pressure or kick, or indeed weather, he taking most of those.'"
He has but not many. The only one that ever cost us was against Cas I think?? He's certainly one of the very best under the bomb.
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| Quote: vastman "He has but not many. The only one that ever cost us was against Cas I think?? He's certainly one of the very best under the bomb.'"
In your opinion?
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| Quote: PopTart "In your opinion?'"
To be fair I have to agree. Struggling to remember any he’s dropped over the years. He is excellent at fielding kicks and bombs .
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| Quote: PopTart "In your opinion?'"
Who's opinion would you like it in?
I can't remember him dropping many, and the only one that sticks in my mind was against Cas, two years ago I think. Hope non of that offends, Regards.
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| Quote: vastman "Who's opinion would you like it in?
I can't remember him dropping many, and the only one that sticks in my mind was against Cas, two years ago I think. Hope non of that offends, Regards.'"
Quote: vastman "Very little on here is, but you have to admire the conviction with which it’s said. I think some are so deluded they actually believe it themselves.
Alway best to start with IMO, in my opinion.'"
You just said to always put IMO when stating an opinion. Just reminding you about your own advice.
I've always said Max is exceptional under the high ball. It is my opinion but the facts back it up.
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| Quote: PopTart "You just said to always put IMO when stating an opinion. Just reminding you about your own advice.
I've always said Max is exceptional under the high ball. It is my opinion but the facts back it up.'"
But it's not an opinion is it, he did drop a high ball against Cas, it's a fact, or are you saying he has never dropped a ball.
Max is exceptional under the high ball, I believe I said that
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| Quote: Wildcatnomore "Quick question, how come it's ok for you two to have tit for tat rubbish on here, but when other people do it you're down on them like a ton of bricks??
You make a good point. I hadn't intended that to happen.
However, I tend to come down on people when they start getting offensive and name calling not just disagreeing. You can do that as much as you like.
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| Quote: PopTart "You make a good point. I hadn't intended that to happen.
However, I tend to come down on people when they start getting offensive and name calling not just disagreeing. You can do that as much as you like.'"
I disagree.
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