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Quote: tigertot "
Quote: tigertot "Wakefield is a city, Bradford is really just a big town - move on.'"


It must be hard being part of a board as negative & spiteful as this one.'"

After reading much of the bleating that was posted on the Bulls forum last year I'm surprised you're not more hardened to it.

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Quote: tigertot "So they didn't 'give' Bradford any money then?
Sad, bitter, envious small town mentality.'"

Yes they did, at the time it was a loan, they then took over the lease and called Odsal iconic in an attempt to make it look like they got something back for their money, but let's not kid ourselves that they actually wanted to own the lease or that Bradford have actually paid them any of the initial loan back because from that point they've never had any money to pay back.

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Am I understanding this right?

An extra million pounds, over and above what the teams would normally get has been shared among the 13 teams that are not Bradford?
£77,000 goes a long way for as super league team. The big ones with the good management can't spend it on players as they are at salary cap so it probably does go to infrastructure and development
The smaller ones like us would use it to stave off administration and improve the £60million debt situation that the BBC like to talk about.
As Bradford have wiped out some debts for free I'd say it has most certainly strengthened the league.

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Quote: PopTart "Am I understanding this right?

An extra million pounds, over and above what the teams would normally get has been shared among the 13 teams that are not Bradford?
£77,000 goes a long way for as super league team. The big ones with the good management can't spend it on players as they are at salary cap so it probably does go to infrastructure and development
The smaller ones like us would use it to stave off administration and improve the £60million debt situation that the BBC like to talk about.
As Bradford have wiped out some debts for free I'd say it has most certainly strengthened the league.'"


Nobody appears to know the truth!

Nobody is forthcoming to say how much of a reduction in Sky monies Bradford has to endure, I thought it was in the region of £1.2M over the next two years?

If my memory serves me correctly, last season S.L (Europe) was to take over the club & all the CEO’s went along & agreed to this scenario, presumably with the sweetener of extra monies for all (Except Bradford)

Everything was done on the quite & swept under the carpet & those who revisit it are treat with derision.

Just let it go - otherwise you’re branded as bitter, petty minded zealots.

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Quote: Wildthing "The only actual spite being mooted in this thread is from yourself.
Maybe you should pause for a second before pressing the submit button.'"

Maybe thats why the cas forum is so desolate as well? icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "After reading much of the bleating that was posted on the Bulls forum last year I'm surprised you're not more hardened to it.'"


Yes, there were posters from many boards posting tripe & support on the Bulls board. Why not, Bulls fans do not own the board, nor Wakey fans this one. I posted numerous times, despite not being a BUlls fan. I am not aware I have ever criticised any team getting support, financial or otherwise. I am disappointed at the lack of unity in RL but I guess that's the society we are now building.

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Quote: kinleycat "Maybe thats why the cas forum is so desolate as well?
It's one of the reasons I rarely venture on there.

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Lets face it, if Odsal didn't have a dual usage, Bradford wouldn't still exist(rugby ground and bath for Nigel Wood)!!!!!!!

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Quote: PopTart "I wouldn't normally care about this but considering we have these comments from people about Wakefield not being a city it is worth clarifying that Bradford is a city.'"


Some folk always just miss the point in their rush to be pedantry.

Is Bradford a city? Yes, but is it the real del like us - not quite for me.

It wasn't until the early 1900's when it was ramped up to this status due to the church of St Peter being made the Cathedral Church of St Peter. Originally in the Diocese of York, the church was in the Diocese of Ripon before becoming a Cathedral in 1919, when the Diocese of Bradford was created. Despite Bradford's huge wealth at the time they were too tight to actually build a real one which says it all. Ditto it's University, that only gained it's charter in 1966.

Hence Bradford's city status is quite new. Our city status is real, ancient and noble.

See where I'm going with this icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Trebor "Lets face it, if Odsal didn't have a dual usage, Bradford wouldn't still exist(rugby ground and bath for Nigel Wood)!!!!!!!'"


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Quote: vastman "Some folk always just miss the point in their rush to be pedantry.

Is Bradford a city? Yes, but is it the real del like us - not quite for me.

It wasn't until the early 1900's when it was ramped up to this status due to the church of St Peter being made the Cathedral Church of St Peter. Originally in the Diocese of York, the church was in the Diocese of Ripon before becoming a Cathedral in 1919, when the Diocese of Bradford was created. Despite Bradford's huge wealth at the time they were too tight to actually build a real one which says it all. Ditto it's University, that only gained it's charter in 1966.

Hence Bradford's city status is quite new. Our city status is real, ancient and noble.

See where I'm going with this
That does seem, dare I say a little pedantic Vasty. They are a City. I don't think there is a cut off date for being a REAL city.

I have no desire to defend them but it just shows double standards on our part when we argue with the idiotic Leeds fans that try to put us down and then use the same arguement against Bradford.

My limited online search shows City Status granted as follows:
Wakefield 1888
Leeds 1893
Bradford 1897

It's hardly a new thing.

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Quote: PopTart "That does seem, dare I say a little pedantic Vasty. They are a City. I don't think there is a cut off date for being a REAL city.

I have no desire to defend them but it just shows double standards on our part when we argue with the idiotic Leeds fans that try to put us down and then use the same arguement against Bradford.

My limited online search shows City Status granted as follows

Of course it's pedantic, I was giving him a bit of a wind up rather than a history lesson.

As for 1888, with a Cathedral by the old measure we were a city long before that.

Not that it really matters...

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Quote: vastman "Of course it's pedantic, I was giving him a bit of a wind up rather than a history lesson.

As for 1888, with a Cathedral by the old measure we were a city long before that.

Not that it really matters...'"


If by 'him' you mean me I couldn't give a monkeys if somewhere is a city, town or not. It's the people in there that matters (to paraphrase the great Pete Postlethwaite in Brassed Off).

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Quote: tigertot "If by 'him' you mean me I couldn't give a monkeys if somewhere is a city, town or not. It's the people in there that matters (to paraphrase the great Pete Postlethwaite in Brassed Off).'"


I'm not sure you have made your case any better.......I'm switching back to Vasty's side now.

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Whilst the SL teams are allowed to dictate what happens in RL when it applies to their side they will always act in a selfish manner and look after one's interest. If the shoe was on the other foot, Bradford would have took the money too. I'm not saying i agree with the decision but it's the nature of those with power to look after number one.

Hopefully if this happens again in future the RFL will act in the same manner towards the club. But in there lies the problem, the RFL fundaentally struggle to act impartial when it comes to decision making.

At least Bradford can draw a line under it all now and move forward. It's a horrible position to be in as we know more than most but they've gotten through it and can look forward towards talking about rugby and Jamie Langley's hair. Happy days!

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