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| Interesting to see on the VT's 2013 prediction thread most people are tipping us to make the Top 8.
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| Quote: Wildthing "Interesting to see on the VT's 2013 prediction thread most people are tipping us to make the Top 8.'"
Not sure how you get that? Take out the Wakey fans and the majority think we won't make the 8 - although 2 people have us as high as 6th! I'll take that!
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| Quote: TRB "Not sure how you get that? Take out the Wakey fans and the majority think we won't make the 8 - although 2 people have us as high as 6th! I'll take that!
Taking out the Wakey fans predictions there are still 15 people who think we will make the 8.
The ones that dont have us mainly finishing 9th.
If you look at the Rhinos forum re: predictions for 2013 most of them have us in the 8
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| Quote: TRB "OK - I'm prepared to get shot down here - but why are so many of you so negative about what we can achieve this year?
Is it purely a matter of 'expect the worst and hope for the best' - if so, I can understand that, but I do think we have every reason to believe that we can go better than last year.
1 We have Poore / Lynne / Sykes / Lee Smith - from the start - which makes us stronger than this time last yesr.
2 We are settled
3 Our backup juniors are a year older
4 We only have one 'old man' and I wouldn't swap him for anyone in SL
5 We have perhaps the best SH in SL this year - on a par with Brough IMO
6 We have one of the best packs in SL IMO
OK, so there are reasons to believe that other squads will be better than last year, but for once, I'm looking up the table and not down it.
With a little luck, this year could be really exciting!
I agree with all your positive points but you are avoiding the negatives too.
1) No one will take us lightly this year so every game will be tough
2) Our wings are renowned for spilling the high ball so expect that to be targetted from day 1 to see if we have plugged that.
3) There is a hole outside Sykes and inside Smith that was used to great effect at Leeds.
4) We rely on Smith to run the show so he will be targetted.
5) Once through the line the full back is unlikely to be able to tackle you.
I'm still saying we have every chance of 8th and even higher, but it is not going to be plain sailing.
I can just imagine Bradford and London targeting us as a win, with Gower and Jeffries already looking forward to bombing us out of teh game.
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| Quote: PopTart "I agree with all your positive points but you are avoiding the negatives too.
1) No one will take us lightly this year so every game will be tough
2) Our wings are renowned for spilling the high ball so expect that to be targetted from day 1 to see if we have plugged that.
3) There is a hole outside Sykes and inside Smith that was used to great effect at Leeds.
4) We rely on Smith to run the show so he will be targetted.
5) Once through the line the full back is unlikely to be able to tackle you.
I'm still saying we have every chance of 8th and even higher, but it is not going to be plain sailing.
I can just imagine Bradford and London targeting us as a win, with Gower and Jeffries already looking forward to bombing us out of teh game.'"
It will be a miracle if Jeffries bombs us out of the game .
Is he not back in Australia?
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| Quote: jacques "It will be a miracle if Jeffries bombs us out of the game .
Is he not back in Australia?'"
Good point well made.
I forgot.....though rumours of his previous exits to Oz have been greatly exaggerated in the past so you can forgive me for not hanging on to that memory.
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| Quote: PopTart "I agree with all your positive points but you are avoiding the negatives too.
1) No one will take us lightly this year so every game will be tough
2) Our wings are renowned for spilling the high ball so expect that to be targetted from day 1 to see if we have plugged that.
3) There is a hole outside Sykes and inside Smith that was used to great effect at Leeds.
4) We rely on Smith to run the show so he will be targetted.
5) Once through the line the full back is unlikely to be able to tackle you.
I'm still saying we have every chance of 8th and even higher, but it is not going to be plain sailing.
I can just imagine Bradford and London targeting us as a win, with Gower and Jeffries already looking forward to bombing us out of teh game.'"
I'm not ignoring anything - but being a real fan ( ) I'm backing us to rise above these issues!
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| It will be interesting to see how teams handle Tim Smith this season; every SL coach will have seen how important he is for us and how dangerous he is with ball in hand - expect opposition teams to at least attempt to rush, crowd and generally clatter him at every opportunity.
Looking forward to seeing him show a few up!
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| it is a different thing knowing who is the danger man and stopping him
many teams know cas revolve around chase, yet are still unable to control him (generally the sign of a good player) and i hope it is the same with tim smith this year.
i did notice that schofield made no wild predictions (e.g. another naked run) if he was wrong, especially after been goaded by the salford fans on twitter last night! he might have learnt his lesson.
i think we are a top 8 side, and we will be there at the end of the season.
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| Quote: bren2k "It will be interesting to see how teams handle Tim Smith this season; every SL coach will have seen how important he is for us and how dangerous he is with ball in hand - expect opposition teams to at least attempt to rush, crowd and generally clatter him at every opportunity.
Looking forward to seeing him show a few up!'"
Will be nice to see teams worried about us and trying to find ways to stop Smith rather than usually us chasing round like headless chickens, Smith is a class act and can handle the extra attention he will get coming his way, he may also thrive of it and use it to our advantage,
Really looking forward to this season and 6th is very achievable
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| Quote: TRB "I'm not ignoring anything - but being a real fan (
I seem to remember you accusing me of having rose tinted glasses last year and I can't remember the word you used but had a go because I was not happy with those booing Tim Smith.
This year I am not a real fan because I can see we are not perfect.
I get the wink but make up your mind.
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| Quote: TRB "In RL Express this morning Schoey reckons we won't make the 8 again; that we relied on Bradford having points deducted and, probably rightly, that we wouldn't half miss Tim Smith if he was injured!
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He's not really wrong in my opinion, we played a fair few teams at the right time at the end of the season but fair play you can only beat whats infront of you but if we dont have Smith's form for the 2nd half of the season then we would have a real gap that needed filling in.
We are probably just a bit behind KR and Bradford, on a par with London and a bit infront of Widnes, Salford and Cas in my opinion and usually a fancied team under achieves and a unfancied team has a nice run but we should be in the mix for the 8th play off place realistically.
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| Every team in SL spends a large amount of time doing video analysis of their next opposition, they search for, find and then study the smallest traits in both the team and it's individuals. Tip sheets are produced by members of the coaching staff and every player MUST become familiar with them, they then make changes to the way they attack/defend some are so subtle you might not even notice and some are significant. Make no mistake, our opposition will do this prior to every game this year just as they did last year.
Tim Smith was not a surprise to opposition teams last year, they had studied him and the rest of the team and had a game plan to place him under pressure, they'll try the same this year but it isn't anything new and won't be something Tim Smith and Richard Agar haven't dealt with in every game.
IMO it won't be an extra factor for us to contend with in 2013
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| Quote: PopTart "I seem to remember you accusing me of having rose tinted glasses last year and I can't remember the word you used but had a go because I was not happy with those booing Tim Smith.
This year I am not a real fan because I can see we are not perfect.
I get the wink but make up your mind.'"
Lighten up man!
I never question anyones support as the level is something that cannot be measured and, whether Rose Tinted or not, we all (to coin a phrase) dream the same dream.
It's gonna be a good year!
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| Quote: The Clan "Every team in SL spends a large amount of time doing video analysis of their next opposition, they search for, find and then study the smallest traits in both the team and it's individuals. Tip sheets are produced by members of the coaching staff and every player MUST become familiar with them, they then make changes to the way they attack/defend some are so subtle you might not even notice and some are significant. Make no mistake, our opposition will do this prior to every game this year just as they did last year.
Tim Smith was not a surprise to opposition teams last year, they had studied him and the rest of the team and had a game plan to place him under pressure, they'll try the same this year but it isn't anything new and won't be something Tim Smith and Richard Agar haven't dealt with in every game.
IMO it won't be an extra factor for us to contend with in 2013'"
I thought "second season syndrome" was a generally accepted sporting phenominomininominom? How would you explain that? Granted it's not exactly the same as Smith is a seasoned pro and not a rookie breaking through but I think the wider point remains.
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