I despair also. we seem to keep changing thigs for the sake of it . Yes the Framing the future may have worked to a point by making clubs improve tehir facilities etc but look at the England team and how many of the superleague teams did not have a representative, has the salary cap produced a level playing field ? will moving to a new stadium always work ? it did fro warrington they had a big backer but does not seem to have worked for Salford. Yes the fans should have more say at club lever and at the rfl. I would love to see a fans rep on every club board and one at the rfl. I did apply for the recent vacancy of non- executive Chairman of RFL but as yet have not been selected for interview

. Would love to get in there and sort it

I must be in the minority because I'm happy with franchising just not the way it's been implemented in RL. I also think 14 is the perfect number, and given time it'll help improve the competitiveness of the competition.

I loved P & R but I didn't love the destructive nature it had upon the bottom SL & top championship sides. Too many sides panicked, but such is the financial implications it was inevitable. Franchising should redress this long term (granted not thus far) and there's been far more youngsters given opportunities.

I'm not sure another French side would add to the competition. We need to be investing in the likes of London & Salford to stabilise them.

www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... try2588812 Some info perhaps related to this meeting. Also further proof of how the RFL completely stitched up Bradford and treated them atrociously.

www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... try2588812 Some info perhaps related to this meeting. Also further proof of how the RFL completely stitched up Bradford and treated them atrociously.

And I bet you could .

On the subject of pormotion, it must be a reward for on field performance.Ok, there should also be minimum criteria, just as there was at the inception of SL but, it is wholly wrong to promote teams because of a shiny new stadium (or maintain top flight status because of it)
The question then is, do you promote the team that finishes top of the league or, the grand final winner (who may have only won half of their games in the regular season) and do we have
P/R every season ?

That link won't work for me, can you summarise?

It basically states that Hull FC pay £500k in rent per season where as Bradford only pay the RFL 90k per season.

It was more this i was referring to....


When the next round of SL franchising comes around, 12 teams and reinstatement of promotion and relegation is looking likely. (One for you Lobby)

I'm with you on the franchising part. We need to stick with it and make it better rather than canning it.

French side I'm in favour of but it would need to be a case of them being the very best option rather than a team further away that we'd like to see. If Fev are better overall Fev should get it.

90k seems very cheap, it was supposed to be "market price" !
This will be tempered by food outlets etc but, you tend to think this is another example of the RFL "helping" the Bulls and/or some very hard negotiating by the new owners.

No I agree, I see advantages and disadvantages of both but on the whole franchising can work and we've seen areas that it has, like Stadia, more home grown young players and community work teams are doing. Like you say with P&R, teams had difficulties planing long term, especially in the bottom half of the table and looked for quick fixes in search of success.

I often think where our team would be without franchising, such as would we still have the Richardson's in-charge, would the ground have seen any improvements, would we be on the brink of a new stadium, would we of been able to run the club in a more professional business like manor, like we have under AG so far and tbh I don't think much would have changed without it.

Yep agree with that as well, if a French side is good enough and a better option than the likes of Feath and Halifax, sure they should be allowed in. We just don't want to see anymore of this rushed, ill thought out, just because a team has good a bit of cash behind it and we fancy a club in that area then fast track them in. Grassroots is the key to any expansion area, investment in the schools and amateur clubs is everything imo and that sort of thing takes years.