Brough was already a Challenge Cup winner when we had him, and he already had a big name in Rugby League, its just that some teams didnt want to touch him with a barge pole or already had players in that position. He hardly made his name at Wakey.

So you realise that some people cannot attend every single game.....

Hull have more fans than Wakey ever will have.
HKR have more fans than Wakey do.
Cas fans have prob seen their team win more than we have over the last five or six years or so, (partly helped by winning NL1 games - but winning is winning, and draws in fans). They traditionally have higher attendances than Wakey anyway.

What you serve up on the pitch is crucial, you could play out of a golden palace but if you watching crud on the pitch you end up not wanting to turn up. Team/performance next season is important or attendances will stay low.

if that was the case and wakey hadnt have taken him on where do you think he's have being playing? he would have ended up in the championship,

Ricky Bibey won a CC medal, as have many otheres, a medal doesnt make you a great player

Brough came back to us as some one with potential, he left us as one of, if not the best british half in the game, regardless of that though......

When he was offered better money in what ever form, he left

JD did not

He would have found somewhere. You say Bibey won a CC medal, but he wasn't an influential player in the Final as Brough was. Brough had more than potential, he was still a player that Sky Sports raved about when he was having a good game.

I'm not saying that JD didnt have a different approach, just that Brough had a higher reputation before he came.

Maybe, but ours seem to be dropping at pretty much the same rate as yours. In these financially tight times people will prioritise where they splash their cash especially leisure-wise as demonstrated by a feeble 8k at the Jungle on Friday...for the price of admission you could buy a good few pints in a pub showing the game live. At the very least punters demand value for money but very rarely get it from either of our clubs at the moment. If the quality of the teams we are putting out continues to deteriorate next season even the unmentionable merger wouldn't help because we couldn't raise a decent side between us.

the point i'm trying to make is that JD didnt take the money, he stayed to fight for the trin cause, if you dont like me using brough as an example there are plenty of other players I could name

The bottom line is no one else of JDs ability has stayed when a bigger club has come knocking

I agree with that, don't get me wrong I don't respect what Brough did - I would much prefer more people were loyal like JD has been. I agreed with the other names you named as being nothing much before their Wakey days, we have severely contributed to their career progression.

Really? Which clubs?

I'd rather have done as Ellis, Westwood and Poching did, and Atkins may do in a fortnight - leaving for bigger, more professionally run clubs to win trophies than stay with little hope of that if I was a player.

Loyalty is very over-rated.

if he had done you would probably have been one of the first to call him. loyalty is a quality that has to be earned and jd has earned it in bucketfulls at wakey. all the afore mentiond players, ellis westwood poaching, atkins etc kissed the badges and talked the talk but none of them actually stayed. when the money was offered jd walked the walk stuck with wakey through thick and thin. . you might think that that loyalty is over rated but its a good job evryone does not think like you .jd certainly doesn't

Are you saying youre a player?!?

Atkins has already left and gone to a bigger club, that being warrington

Are you saying that JDs loyalty to the club and fans doesnt contribute to his status as a trinity great?

The above aside my message seems to be getting lost here

Jason to me is the biggest legend of the SL era to trinity, what sets him apart from many other excellent players who have played for us and moved on is that he stayed when he was offered a contract/s else where

Fans ask for pride/passion and effort from players wearing our shirt, we've had this for the past god knows how long from this guy yet some find excuses for not turning out at BV sunday and saying good bye.

You want it, you get it, and then you find a reason to turn a blind eye.