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FWIW

I don’t think Randall in the end was value for money. Mainly due to injury which wasn’t his fault. Had he been fit and played more games then who knows, but it’s speculative at best.

Look at it this way, had it not been for a truly sunning debut he’s not done much, he’s been ok but ok isn’t what you look for on a quota player.

If you compare him to say Tupou or big Dave both of whom have had injuries then you get a better picture. Fifita in particular after a poor start was at times winning games on his own whilst Bill was wowing consistently!

Randell didn’t need to be that good but imo he rarely got close bar the Salford game. Truth is we could have signed a British player even one from the Championship and got similar or better and possibly cheaper.

Like PP Randell was a signing who had his moments but never really paid off. Luckily we don’t have too many of those.

Arona, Miller, Fifita, Tupou, Tanganoa have all paid off big time, they are all better in there own ways than any British players available to us. With two spots left let’s not rush, apart from hooker we are not that short of players, I don’t see the point on dragging a player halfway around the world unless one he’s already a star, or two, has the potential to be one.

We seem to do better with the latter.

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In fairness was just pointing out how much we need a quality number 9 after other teams have strengthened at 6 and 7 and left us behind

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Can’t see anyone whose left us behind regarding halfbacks? Salford have gone backwards with replacing Hastings with Brown.

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Quote: Willzay "Can’t see anyone whose left us behind regarding halfbacks? Salford have gone backwards with replacing Hastings with Brown.'"

And Cas have lost Gale, and if rumours are true McShane May be on his way to Leeds.

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Only takes to lose a few key players in most teams and it makes life really tough to compete whether that be through injuries or moving on, and even harder to fill their spot .
Personally thought a fit Randall was an asset to our club ,not a show boater but a real grafter and now a vacant spot that needs filling

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Quote: Fishermanscap "FWIW

I don’t think Randall in the end was value for money. Mainly due to injury which wasn’t his fault. Had he been fit and played more games then who knows, but it’s speculative at best.

Look at it this way, had it not been for a truly sunning debut he’s not done much, he’s been ok but ok isn’t what you look for on a quota player.

If you compare him to say Tupou or big Dave both of whom have had injuries then you get a better picture. Fifita in particular after a poor start was at times winning games on his own whilst Bill was wowing consistently!

Randell didn’t need to be that good but imo he rarely got close bar the Salford game. Truth is we could have signed a British player even one from the Championship and got similar or better and possibly cheaper.

Like PP Randell was a signing who had his moments but never really paid off. Luckily we don’t have too many of those.

Arona, Miller, Fifita, Tupou, Tanganoa have all paid off big time, they are all better in there own ways than any British players available to us. With two spots left let’s not rush, apart from hooker we are not that short of players, I don’t see the point on dragging a player halfway around the world unless one he’s already a star, or two, has the potential to be one.

We seem to do better with the latter.'"


1) how can you say he isn't value for money without know what he cost? Nor for that matter what value he was off the field.
2) surely the coaching staff believe every player we sign has potential. You don't sign some you think is going to be crap.

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I am sure Trinity will get in a quality experienced 9 that will complement Kyle Wood for next season.

Lunt has been a quality 9 for a long time but there has to be a question over whether physically he could perform to SL standard for another season (KR and Leeds can't have thought so)...

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Quote: PopTart "1) how can you say he isn't value for money without know what he cost? Nor for that matter what value he was off the field.
2) surely the coaching staff believe every player we sign has potential. You don't sign some you think is going to be crap.'"


Neither of those comments replicate what I said. You really do have an issue with anyone who doesn’t follow your view of anything Trinity.

1: NRL players especially ones with a family don’t come cheap, why would anyone think they would, be serious please. He may have been cheap compared to some other NRL imports but he won’t have come over here for a pittance.

2: I never said he was crap that’s just a lame attempt to put words in my mouth. Doesn’t do you any credit. He is a good player but that doesn’t automatically make him a good player for us. I personally don’t think he’ll be missed all that much, mainly because I think he can be replaced.

For various reasons I don’t think as a quota player he was VFM due as I clearly stated to injuries that I clearly stated were not his fault.

I don’t mind debating with you but your knee jerk reactions to what are fair comments on my part are truly tedious.

You think he was a top signing that’s fine, I’m not convinced, live with it I do.

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Maybe we should give Josh Wood a chance to prove himself, as I think he has a point to prove by being pushed out by Lussick and Tomkins.

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Maybe we should give Josh Wood a chance to prove himself, as I think he has a point to prove by being pushed out by Lussick and Tomkins.'"

Could be just a rumour...he's not be signed yet has he?

Josh seems to be the same style of 9 as Kyle ...small nippy player who benefits from a quick play the ball...

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Quote: Fishermanscap "FWIW

I don’t think Randall in the end was value for money. Mainly due to injury which wasn’t his fault. Had he been fit and played more games then who knows, but it’s speculative at best.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "1) how can you say he isn't value for money without know what he cost? Nor for that matter what value he was off the field.
2) surely the coaching staff believe every player we sign has potential. You don't sign some you think is going to be crap.'"



Quote: Fishermanscap "
Neither of those comments replicate what I said. You really do have an issue with anyone who doesn’t follow your view of anything Trinity'"


Did I not read your first post correctly?
I'm sorry if I misunderstood but I don't really see why you have a problem with someone asking for clarification on your post.

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Sorry. Your point is well made.

To get back on track, I think the 9 is vital for a team to perform.
We can cover the tackling with Crowther and Ashurst but the most important part of the role for me is the quality of the pass and pass selection.

All the champion sides have it. Roby's tackling is always talked about but his pass is what makes the team tick.
And that's what we need to give our back line time on the ball.

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Cam king would be a great option if he would be more realistic on his wage demands..

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