It is not when the kick goes up, it is when it comes down at the point of challenge and at that point he was less than 10 metres away. So as he was in front of Hall when he kicked it he is offside.

How can he be played onside by Hall as he runs past him, then be offside when Hall is jumping in the air to challenge for the ball?

Soon as Hall passes players and gets to the ball they are triggered on side, try end of.

Wrong.

Ok

One last time. As he was in front of the kicker Finn would have only have been placed onside by Hall running through if he had remained 10 metres away from Shaul at the point the ball was challenged for. He didn't, he encroached within that. It matters not that Hall touched the ball first. So it is no try as much as we might want it to be. It is very much a crap rule but a rule all the same.

As soon as Hall goes past Finn he is 'back onside'...Hall went past him before he got within 10 metres of Shaul so it should have been a try! The end!

It doesn't. It applies only to offside players, which Finn ceased to be once Hall played him onside. That was the point Cummings was making, that he can't be played onside within ten metres of the catcher, as by then he's already committed the infringement, but Finn was played onside a long time before then. He got it wrong.

Finn was within 10m before Hall passed him. At that point he can't be played onside.

It's a daft rule and it cost us a crucial try earlier in the season. I guess this was a swings and roundabouts moment.

Just looked at the video to check this and no way was Finn within 10 m of defender when the kick went up. If Bentham deems he was within 10 when kick came down Id like to know how he measured that cause it looked marginal at best and was not reported by either ref or linesmen

Finn was within 10 metres, when! What footage are you watching?

When the kick goes up Finn is a couple of metres in front of the line and Shaul is in between two lines so around 13 metres...Hall takes about two strides to go past Finn who is never within 10 metres (while in front of Hall)..not seen Hull one from earlier in season so can't comment...

Thats the contentious bit thats causing the debate. Was Finn always within 10 after Hall had passed or was he outside then encroached afterwards? I originally thought he was always within the 10 which makes it no try, now having just looked again i'm not so sure! He might just have been those 10 metres away as he passed you know!