I'm sure Wally Lewis passed the tablets 50 yards like a tracer bullet at the bottom of Mount Sinai.

I'm enjoying this religious debate, praise be to you all...

Sounds like the usual story, too many penalties and too much dropped ball.

Out muscled.....England injured...

They fronted up fairly well in defence. Got in the right positions but once in those positions really seemed to be completely clueless. Tom Johnstone impressive again. Gibson did pretty well. Finn tries hard but as we know lacks pace, Miller was better without being outstanding. Losing England early on was a big blow. Hulls second try was never in this world a try. Michaels dropped the ball and out his hands up giving himself up, th crowd all groaned in unison and then child's told him to play on! I know they say play to the whistle but god that was shocking! Jowitt was solid as well. No one was poor really but I'd say hulls forwards were better than wakeys on the whole.

Hulls last 3 tries

Silly of us not to play to the whistle
Blatant obstruction
Forward pass

It was silly not to play to the whistle you're right but it was that obvious a knock on that both sides actually stopped. Michaels gave himself up completely and then child's told him to carry on! Gave some baffling decisions both ways. Should be demoted after that display he really was that bad, again for both teams. Demote him though and who takes his place? Groves was better than both Hocks and Child's for me and the RFL have let him go!

Listened on the radio and while they are normally quite biased they said fair play to Wakefields defence but some of the decisions from Child's were baffling. The mans a numpty and while he can't be blamed for our handling errors he shouldn't be allowed to ref at this level until he has proven himself

He was by no means the reason Wakey lost, far from it. The reason was they couldn't turn pressure in to points and some of the justified penalties were silly. Another baffler kick goes up ball bounces in to a Wakey players hands, player scores, ref pulls it back and awards Wakey a penalty???

The penalty was for blocking a on rushing player and the ball went forward from the bounce so no try and back to original pen.

2 tries in 160 minutes of RL is a bit concerning.

Chester has his work cut out. He has to fix a leaky defence whilst sharpening up a blunt attack. Not easy.

Indeed. I don't envy him.

88 points in 7 games isn't good, especially when you take the 28 points in the Catalans game out of the equation then its an average of 10 in the other 6 games, not scoring higher than 16 in a game. We just don't possess enough creativity but the question is are there players of the required standard out there available and would they come for what we would could pay them?

There must be in the NSW cup and the Championship surely....need a scrum half and a prop in my opinion.

We need prop as England will be burnt out at this rate, Finn Miller not answer halfbacks are a must, work on attacking structure, and another quality Centre, but we won't attract any quality as money is tight and nobody will be attracted to backs to the wall fight every week. Vicious circle,