FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > scott moore
183 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
International Star17952
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: Khlav Kalash "It is a bit gutting as he has in my opinion been a major catylist in the up turn in form. His distribution and decision making at dummy half gets us on the front foot giving Miller and Finn space to operate effectively. Unfortunately Howath, although a hard worker with skills of his own, doesn't provide the same platform.

The guy has issues with a fairly chequered history of misdemeanors so I'm not massively surprised he's landed himself in hot water. I just can't see where it's come from and why the RFL have had a second bite at the cherry.'"


Effectively, he was charged with 4 different things and he only played a quarter of the game, that must be some kind of record ?
I agree that he's added that spark in attack and his return, along with Chester coming in, seemed to make a hell of a difference to the team.
I hope that there is no case to answer but, the fact that it has been brought up, nearly 2 weeks after the game, seems to indicate that there will be a case to answer. Again, this seems an unprecedented action, especially for a player who is already serving a ban.
The one certainty is that he will have copped more from the Widnes players, when he was on the ground, that he can have meted out.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50722_1319672516.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg



It's a nasty charge, so I hope he didn't do it. I have to say, having seen the replays, I'm at a loss to work out where it's supposed to have happened - he certainly didn't gouge when he pushed Ah Van off Gibson, and in the melee that followed his high tackle on Ah Van, he was on his back for the most part, with Heremaia trying to leather him.

I'm not automatically assuming he's innocent, but the way it's all come out seems a bit fishy.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator20854
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


They say it is in the 19th minute against Heremaia
Which is the incident after the high tackle on Ah Van

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5086No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Nov 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
14911_1666773367.jpg
[b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv] [b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg



So the charge for punching Heremaia in the 19th minute (ie this incident) says
Quote: "REASON FOR DECISIONThe Tribunal have carefully viewed the DVD of this incident. There are a number of other players involved in the on field melee but this tribunal feel that the player did throw at least one punch whilst he was in the melee and is guilty as charged.

'"


So they have carefully viewed it
They FEEL that the player did throw at least one punch

That to me implies they cannot say for definite that he did even throw a punch - and now they're going to view that same DVD to try and prove he gouged Heremaia!! FFS!!

Guilty - The panel FEEL that Heremaia acted as he did because they believe his side of the story even though the evidence cannot prove it
Sanction - 8 Matches!!


What was Brian Carney's quote - NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE!!

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3629No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2023Mar 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10466_1341959799.jpg
[img:34ro2ar1]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/upthecats.gif[/img:34ro2ar1]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10466.jpg



It also states further down....The exact nature and force of the punches cannot be clarified from the DVD footage....

Yet they can see gouging a week after?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2042No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2938.jpg
:2938.jpg



So, people at fault for Scott Moore's alleged 'gouging':-

The RFL
Widnes
Denis Betts

Basically everyone but Scott Moore.

Come on, this is one of the worst things you can do on the field and given the nature of the game (which the ref couldn't control) it's not out the question. The fact that Moore ran in on the Ah Van tackle (when no one else actually reacted including the officials) then took Ah Van's head off it's absolutely believable - he's no angel.

Take the spectacles off, means nothing to Widnes if he gets banned or not but this shouldn't be condoned in our game.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13742
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29100_1291104497.jpg
1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg



Quote: AJ Viking "So, people at fault for Scott Moore's alleged 'gouging'
Fair enough but how do we know it even happened?

RankPostsTeam
Moderator20854
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: AJ Viking "So, people at fault for Scott Moore's alleged 'gouging'

Jog on. No one has accused anyone of anything. We are waiting to see if there is any evidence first.
You should do the same

RankPostsTeam
International Star2477
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2019Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68436_1348124028.png
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68436.png



The way I see it is a week later the game was reviewed again especially the 'performance' of Scott Moore. I do not know how any evidence can be obtained via video of the game, there were that many bodies involved and the positioning of the cameras (especially from what I have seen) there isn't any conclusive evidence to even charge Moore.
The questions the club should be asking at the minute is why wasn't they made aware when the rest of the charges were publicised. Where is the evidence/who informed of the matter thus was it mentioned in the game by a player? I will openly admitt Scott Moore has been known as a grub but a lot of stuff goes unnoticed with players niggling etc.
Anyway what have Widnes got to gain from the 4-8 matches most likely on top of his 2 match ban you ask? They have got a top 8 spot to lose, I don't think both us and Widnes will be both in the top 8 come end of the season, the bottom four teams still have the potential to get in the 8 especially Salford and Huddersfield. Scott Moore being banned for that period of time if he is given the full punishment will have him out for the rest of the regular season. It doesn't take a rugby league master to notice the huge difference Moore brings and how better we play with him.

The whole review panel needs to be thoroughly reviewed and ammended IMO. Too many things going missed in games and then players copping bans for awkward tackles that they definitely had no control in and see plently in games where players are uninjured from such as HKRs John Boudebzour?? And our own T Arona.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2042No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2938.jpg
:2938.jpg



People don't get charged a whim! On a passing comment by a player!

The review panel have obviously seen something hence he's been charged. And he will get a 4-8 game ban on top of his current ban.

Face it, he's let you down big style here.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36092
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: AJ Viking "So, people at fault for Scott Moore's alleged 'gouging'

Oh give over you myopic oaf. If Moore is guilty then fine he deserves a ban, but that's not proven yet is it!

What is strange and up for debate is the delay in citing him, wouldn't you find that strange if Ah Van was suddenly investigated a week after the Gibson tackle after say he had been let off during the game. Sounds to me like the vile Betts has been acting up again.

You have a lot to be proud of at Widnes, even Ah Van's not a bad lad. However I'd be ashamed to have that big stupid patheic mean spirited petty vindictive fat headed bufoon Betts as Coach, wouldn't you?

Sound like the RFL are trying to placate the moaning git Betts to me.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36092
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: AJ Viking "People don't get charged a whim! On a passing comment by a player!

The review panel have obviously seen something hence he's been charged. And he will get a 4-8 game ban on top of his current ban.

Face it, he's let you down big style here.'"


Has he been found guilty and if so what's the outcome?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2107No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2018Jun 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: AJ Viking "People don't get charged a whim! On a passing comment by a player!

The review panel have obviously seen something hence he's been charged. And he will get a 4-8 game ban on top of his current ban.

Face it, he's let you down big style here.'"

Why wasn't it seen last week when reviewed. Do the RFL normally go back to reviewing a match they already reviewed the week before? What other examples of this happening?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36092
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "Why wasn't it seen last week when reviewed. Do the RFL normally go back to reviewing a match they already reviewed the week before? What other examples of this happening?'"


None, seems to be reserved for just us - what a surprise.

I'm not a conspriracy nut but this strinks of Betts moaninng and bitterness.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11580
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: AJ Viking "The review panel have obviously seen something hence he's been charged. And he will get a 4-8 game ban on top of his current ban.'"

What new evidence has come to light that was not there when the panel first reviewed it? so perhaps he won't get a 4-8 week ban as you insist, maybe it's you what needs remove your personal feelings from the matter and let the panel decide.
Quote: AJ Viking "Face it, he's let you down big style here.'"

Nothing to do with Ah van then icon_rolleyes.gif

183 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
183 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.1982421875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
ChampagneSup
25
7m
BORED The Band Name Game
Cokey
62595
18m
Tonights match v HKR
ninearches
94
19m
Recruitment rumours and links
Smiffy27
3193
21m
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
13
24m
Film game
Boss Hog
4097
51m
TV Games - Not Hull
Irregular Ho
2939
Recent
Fev H Play Off
Highlander
23
Recent
Grand final Tickets
Azul
16
Recent
2024 IMG gradings
jbuzza
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Irregular Ho
2939
1m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
1m
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth Consecutive Title
RLFANS News
1
1m
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2422
1m
Championship Awards
FIL
10
1m
Tonights match v HKR
ninearches
94
1m
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
2m
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
2m
Sam Burgess
sally cinnam
12
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth Consecutive Title
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
Azul
16
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
13
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
ChampagneSup
25
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
sally cinnam
12
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
ninearches
94
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
jbuzza
5
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
Hudd-Shay
11
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
85
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
251
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
318
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
840
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
890
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1262
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1487
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1226
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1630
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1332
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1570
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1743
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2087
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1695
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1730