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I respectfully disagree.

I agree its great he put the money in but the job is to make sure outgoings < incomings and cut the cloth to suit.

Its great having the players we do but I think everyone would prefer much lesser players and finishing lower down the table but being a stable club and growing.

Within a very short time frame it has all fallen apart.

I think he has not had any where near the flack that the Richardsons received who did a similar thing but over a much longer time frame which I think deserves much more credit.



Quote: upthecats "Personally think some of the stuff being written on here about Andrew Glover is disgusting. Yes, mistakes have been made but these are hard times, the guy has put thousands and thousands of his own money into our club, more than the majority of us die hard fans will do in a lifetime. If i was a potential investor with a million quid in the bank and was reading some of the garbage posted on here and how ungreatful people become so quickly with someone who has given to our club what AG has, then i wouldnt touch us with a barge pole...'"


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Has anyone come out and said where the 400k shortfall is from.
We all know about the Eric France deal going pear shaped but, were "comforted" by the acquisition of C & D, who were lauded up to be a sizeable sponsor.

Just before the Rhinos game we were told about cash flow issues and with the bumper crowd in attendance, the lay man would think that this would then have eased the situation slightly.

We are all hacked off at being in the poop (again) but has anything that we have been fed over the past 2 years been correct or has it all been a Jackanory nightmare.

It still puzzles me greatly that, having been in admin so recently, somebody has not controlled the purse strings in a scroogesque style.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Has anyone come out and said where the 400k shortfall is from.
We all know about the Eric France deal going pear shaped but, were "comforted" by the acquisition of C & D, who were lauded up to be a sizeable sponsor.

Just before the Rhinos game we were told about cash flow issues and with the bumper crowd in attendance, the lay man would think that this would then have eased the situation slightly.

We are all hacked off at being in the poop (again) but has anything that we have been fed over the past 2 years been correct or has it all been a Jackanory nightmare.

It still puzzles me greatly that, having been in admin so recently, somebody has not controlled the purse strings in a scroogesque style.'"

Paying players not to play for the club won't have helped. Think of all the contracts that were reneged on in the 2011 off season (Moore, Higgins et al), the likes of Ellis, Southern, Mellars and it starts to add upto a sizable chunk of that £400k

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Yep and John. Im not sure Agar would have wanted them out of the club if it meant the club was on its bum. Is it unusual for a club coach to know about club finances or it is a closely guarded secret? Could have done with some dialogue which could have saved literally hundreds of thousands of pounds.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Paying players not to play for the club won't have helped. Think of all the contracts that were reneged on in the 2011 off season (Moore, Higgins et al), the likes of Ellis, Southern, Mellars and it starts to add upto a sizable chunk of that £400k'"


I agree but, somebody (probably Mr Glover) should have said NO.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Has anyone come out and said where the 400k shortfall is from.
We all know about the Eric France deal going pear shaped but, were "comforted" by the acquisition of C & D, who were lauded up to be a sizeable sponsor.

Just before the Rhinos game we were told about cash flow issues and with the bumper crowd in attendance, the lay man would think that this would then have eased the situation slightly.

We are all hacked off at being in the poop (again) but has anything that we have been fed over the past 2 years been correct or has it all been a Jackanory nightmare.

It still puzzles me greatly that, having been in admin so recently, somebody has not controlled the purse strings in a scroogesque style.'"


No. And that speaks volumes IMHO. No one apparently is accountable.

We are technically looking for idiots to throw good money after bad.

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Quote: captaincaveman "No. And that speaks volumes IMHO. No one apparently is accountable.

We are technically looking for idiots to throw good money after bad.'"


Would you want us / the club to make stuff up - or wait until we have the facts in some kind of order?

You will be able to ask all your questions on Monday - after hearing what the speakers have to say.

We WILL NOT be asking for anyone to put anything in without safeguards in place!

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Quote: upthecats "Personally think some of the stuff being written on here about Andrew Glover is disgusting. Yes, mistakes have been made but these are hard times, the guy has put thousands and thousands of his own money into our club, more than the majority of us die hard fans will do in a lifetime. If i was a potential investor with a million quid in the bank and was reading some of the garbage posted on here and how ungreatful people become so quickly with someone who has given to our club what AG has, then i wouldnt touch us with a barge pole...'"


Completely agree.

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Quote: upthecats "Every little helps! Have heard fieldhead are to pay double subs, fines for mistakes leading to goals and 3 figure fines for any defender scoring...all to be donated..'"


I'll be having a word with our defenders to let in/score a few goals then come pre-match teamtalk tomorrow afternoon. Infact, ive a better plan. Mick, hows about you make a "few mistakes" that i can score from. Everyone's happy! icon_lol.gif

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It gives me no pleasure to say, " I did tell you so " , when Mr Glover ( utmost respect for him being willing to try ) took over and you were all repeating the often heard " he is a successful businessman, he'll know what to do "

Running a proffessional sports club is like running no other business, it is essentially designed to lose money, look at football with Chelsea and Man City, both viewed as successful when in fact they are both just huge charities, heamoraging money at ridiculous rates

It is said that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is a sure sign of insanity, and yet that is exactly what ' Successful Businessmen ' do time and time again

The solution? , not sure, but it certainly doesnt just require a new shiny stadium, or messing about with ST prices

Either way, all the best, and that night at Leigh last year was awesome, I was there sat with you to witness it, I hope you get more nights like that soon again

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Quote: TRB "Would you want us / the club to make stuff up - or wait until we have the facts in some kind of order?

You will be able to ask all your questions on Monday - after hearing what the speakers have to say.

We WILL NOT be asking for anyone to put anything in without safeguards in place!

Idiots are not required thank you! Dam, me and Big Al wanted to come icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: upthecats "Personally think some of the stuff being written on here about Andrew Glover is disgusting. Yes, mistakes have been made but these are hard times, the guy has put thousands and thousands of his own money into our club, more than the majority of us die hard fans will do in a lifetime. If i was a potential investor with a million quid in the bank and was reading some of the garbage posted on here and how ungreatful people become so quickly with someone who has given to our club what AG has, then i wouldnt touch us with a barge pole...'"


Personally i'd like to thank him for putting us on the brink of extinction in a matter of 18 months.


Disgusting is a word i've heard none paid suppliers use, still who cares about the reputation of this once great club in the city of Wakefield.

Garbage is how many fans feel they've been treated under AG.

For All Teds faults he's worth 3 Glovers.

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if ever a club has been ruined wakefield trinity has, from one crisis to the next , turned into a laughing stock,a faint shadow of its former self,its truly sickening.

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Quote: El Rey "Personally i'd like to thank him for putting us on the brink of extinction in a matter of 18 months.


Disgusting is a word i've heard none paid suppliers use, still who cares about the reputation of this once great club in the city of Wakefield.

Garbage is how many fans feel they've been treated under AG.

For All Teds faults he's worth 3 Glovers.'"


So you were on the brink of extinction, then Mr Glover has tipped a shed load of cash in, but cant continue, so you are back on the brink again, so his fault he isnt rich enough for you?

How much do you want somebody else to subsidise your ticket for?

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