i could take getting beat and i dont expect us to win nothing again, but its bloody boring the crowd is voting with their feet utter tripe we are would you pay 20 notes to watch that

People say we have been left with an average squad following the departures, but on paper the squad we have is better than Harlequins yet they can score points and good rugby league trys as well

Some blame for the current boring tactics have to go to the coaching staff

People seem to be forgetting,that Kear is part of the football committee that sanction comings and goings.
The players we have are Kears.
Kear signed the likes of Johnson,extended Demetrious contract,thought Obst was worthy of a quota spot,brought back Ben Jeffries,thought Paul Cooke would replace Brough.
Kear coaches the team,Kear should be motivating the team.
Kear is the man responsible,whether people like it or not,for our on the field performances.The book stops with him and at this moment that book should be thrown at him.

AGREED

Nope got a season ticket, If i hadn't however, id be hard pushed to shell out 20 quid to watch a bore fest.

Even when we won 5/6 games a season we tried/did play some exciting stuff you had poching, solo pushing the offloads. Had full length trys from wingers etc, this is just awful, and it needs to CHANGE !!!

You cannot say there was no work ethic tonight!!!!
We were crap, we executed appalingly, but we worked hard, unfortunately because we had nobody to put us through, we pannicked and cocked up!! A lot!!!

'Just a blip,' they said, 'let him play himself back into form.'

Sorry, but Demetriou is a passenger in that side...moreso than when he moved out on the centre because he'd lost his pace. This is a season too far and it's sad to see his playing legacy erode by the week.

Agreed, deregister him, allow him to run on water, get his testimonial and then work with the kids and develop correct attiduted, free up some valuable cap money and get someone who wan play in their own position properly

I disagree, it's not widespread but some of our players aren't prepared to graft and suck it up in defence. Maybe it's composure or their mental attitude but it seems we have a defeatisted attitude and our heads go down far too easily.

In attack we didn't support the man, we lacked any runners. Maybe that's coaching, but i think that's lazy and whenever you watch the likes of Hudds or Wigan they work alot harder for one another. Maybe it's their conditioning i'm unsure

IMO alot of the problems we have are fairly basic rugby league skills :

1. Move up in a line in defence - not 2 m and stand waiting for the opposition
2. Support the ball carrier
3. Take the ball to the line Draw a man and then pass the ball rather than just along the line
4. stand square at the play the ball (how many times did we get penalised for that tonight)

The players we have should be able to put these basic skills into practice and if they aren't the coaching staff should address the issues.

The basic skills are not being executed and the blame for this lies as much with the coaching staff as the players

If we got around £150k for Atkins when he had (I think) 3 years left on his contract, then anything in excess of £50k would represent very good value for Brough approaching the end of his contract.

Given that Hudds could have signed Brough for nothing at the end of the season (and they weren't exactly short of options at half-back) I'd be worried if I was a Hudds fan and found that anything near £50k had been paid as a fee to Wakey.

As a shareholder I will certainly be asking for answers on this.

but the truth is...that while we won the CC in the league our form was erratic and we'd often produce some shocking displays.

don't get me wrong that day in 2005 is the best day I've had as a Hull fan, but to suggest it was that level of performance every week in the league just isn't true.

And after our (and Sheffield's) moment in the spotlight, what did he achieve then?

Kear is a technical coach FULL STOP.

He and Wakey should accept that fact. Sheffield did and so did Hull FC.

I once told Shaun McCrae that JK was his best signing. Unfortunately when Bomber went back to Aus, the Hull board took the cheap option and appointed Kear. He has an ability to motivate a team for a number of games a year but that is a limited number. I also believe that he gets too close to some players and that causes factions in the sheds.

He wasn't best loved by two of the most professional players that have ever pulled on the black & white hoops. When you lose the respect of players like Kearney and more especially Swain, then you really do have a problem.

Alan ?