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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Looking at some of the stats coming out it's worth watching the game again on Trin TV I guess.'"


God, I hate that view from behind the sticks. Surely only Bistro42 see that angle in a positive light?

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Quote: PopTart "Jai Whitbread did 42 tackles missing 1 and 12 carries for average of 7 metres per carry.
They are good stars

Reece made 134 metres. Next closest was 85!

Lineham took the ball up 17 times.'"


For some, Lyne would have to score a hattrick in every game to be worthy of his place.
Lineham could be in a similar position.

Lineham was probably our hardest working player last Friday, certainly amongst the backs but, "he should be dropped", it's a bit weird.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "For some, Lyne would have to score a hattrick in every game to be worthy of his place.
Lineham could be in a similar position.

Lineham was probably our hardest working player last Friday, certainly amongst the backs but, "he should be dropped", it's a bit weird.'"

For the first 20 minutes Lineham did twice the carries of any of our forwards. He has my respect for that.

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Quote: PopTart "They don't measure how far he ran. They measure metres gained.'"


I presume they use the information from the gps fitted in each shirt therefore how does it know if the metres are forward or sideways.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "For some, Lyne would have to score a hattrick in every game to be worthy of his place.
Lineham could be in a similar position.

Lineham was probably our hardest working player last Friday, certainly amongst the backs but, "he should be dropped", it's a bit weird.'"

Agree , and no fan of Lineham .Thinks fans should look in the middle of the park for the main problem of why are backs look poor .The backs are getting past it ,but are not as bad as they looked again Catalan

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Quote: alegend "Agree , and no fan of Lineham .Thinks fans should look in the middle of the park for the main problem of why are backs look poor .The backs are getting past it ,but are not as bad as they looked again Catalan'"


If the pack dont get us on the front foot, the backs just end up getting hammered.
We need to give the likes of Murphy (and Lineham) some space and there wasn't much of that v Catalan and it will be similar v Wigan.
Having said that, I think that our Forwards can do a job v Wigan but, they will be hurting after their loss v KR so, the task is a little harder.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "For some, Lyne would have to score a hattrick in every game to be worthy of his place.
Lineham could be in a similar position.

Lineham was probably our hardest working player last Friday, certainly amongst the backs but, "he should be dropped", it's a bit weird.'"


I'd agree. He re adjusted his pony tail 23 times for 3 man buns gained.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I presume they use the information from the gps fitted in each shirt therefore how does it know if the metres are forward or sideways.'"


I believe its a little more advanced.
The data can be visualised.

https://www.statsperform.com/team-performance/rugby/
Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I presume they use the information from the gps fitted in each shirt therefore how does it know if the metres are forward or sideways.'"


I believe its a little more advanced.
The data can be visualised.

https://www.statsperform.com/team-performance/rugby/


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The synthetic pitch directly led to two Catalan tries due to unusual bounces. First when Murphy failed to clean up and second when they sent out a dreadful pass to Davies that would be expected to dribble about but kicked up into his arms for a simple try. We had lost position with the second but if players want to be professional they need to make professional decisions and make the ball safe. Catalan rarely looked like exploiting field position so just put the ball dead. The same should go for the referee. He could spot marginal forward pass from a short pass at a 90 degree angle but let Johnstone score from a forward pass all the crowd could see was 2 yards forward and viewed on TV the pitch markings confirm as 4 yards forward.
Also, are we too naive to lay on in the ruck to allow the defence to set and gain control by slowing the ruck. Catalan were allowed to do this at every opportunity so clearly the rules have changed to allow this spoiling tactic. Why didn't we do it??

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Quote: FSW "The synthetic pitch directly led to two Catalan tries due to unusual bounces. First when Murphy failed to clean up and second when they sent out a dreadful pass to Davies that would be expected to dribble about but kicked up into his arms for a simple try. We had lost position with the second but if players want to be professional they need to make professional decisions and make the ball safe. Catalan rarely looked like exploiting field position so just put the ball dead. The same should go for the referee. He could spot marginal forward pass from a short pass at a 90 degree angle but let Johnstone score from a forward pass all the crowd could see was 2 yards forward and viewed on TV the pitch markings confirm as 4 yards forward.
Also, are we too naive to lay on in the ruck to allow the defence to set and gain control by slowing the ruck. Catalan were allowed to do this at every opportunity so clearly the rules have changed to allow this spoiling tactic. Why didn't we do it??'"


We tried and conceded six agains. Wasn’t even as long as Catalan were taking scuttling over players and wrestling on floor. Wakey tried it and the ref had no patience for us trying to emulate Catalans. It’s the inconsistencies around six again I guess. I absolutely hate how it’s applied indifferently.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "We tried and conceded six agains. Wasn’t even as long as Catalan were taking scuttling over players and wrestling on floor. Wakey tried it and the ref had no patience for us trying to emulate Catalans. It’s the inconsistencies around six again I guess. I absolutely hate how it’s applied indifferently.'"


I know. I was just trying to make a point, without resorting to the obvious, that this was yet another in a very long line of extremely poor refereeing performances stretching back over many years. We do suffer from not being on TV very often and that is something that Super League should be sorting out either by televising every game or making sure that all clubs are equally represented on TV. Ultimately though, it's about time the refereeing fraternity took responsibility for their performances and showed a glimmer of improvement.

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Quote: FSW "I know. I was just trying to make a point, without resorting to the obvious, that this was yet another in a very long line of extremely poor refereeing performances stretching back over many years. We do suffer from not being on TV very often and that is something that Super League should be sorting out either by televising every game or making sure that all clubs are equally represented on TV. Ultimately though, it's about time the refereeing fraternity took responsibility for their performances and showed a glimmer of improvement.'"


It’s frustrating for the fans but you can visibly see the frustration on the players. Numerous times trinity players were trying to play the ball only to be denied the right yet no repercussions. I don’t know whether it’s referees perception of top half/bottom half teams but teams seem to be reffed inconsistently.

I refer back to when Whitbread landed on his front with a good charge. Tried to get up earning the quick play. Player on him. Tried again. Plsyer pushed him back down. By time he played it it was so slow and he was frustrated visibly.

Then in contrast late in 2nd half when Catalan player did same. Had a player on him who got off a lot faster yet referee waving six again for Catalans. The inconsistency is just poor for the game.

I wish it was scrapped.

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The consistency of the refereeing inconsistency can only lead to the conclusion that it is deliberate and not seen as a problem by the controller of referees.

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Quote: FSW "The synthetic pitch directly led to two Catalan tries due to unusual bounces. '"

its not a synthetic pitch, its a hybrid grass pitch icon_thumb.gif

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Agree with all the above, in fact it's a big turn off for me, not just the ambiguous 6 again rule, but the blatant things refs are missing, that forward pass for johnstone's try was a shocking miss, it wasn't even debatable, then the one were he dropped the ball over the line. I can only think he gave a penalty try for reefing the ball, which is what Johnstone claimed had happened.
Just want a level playing field, that's twice on the trot that particular ref has done us.

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