I assure you, there hasn’t!

Same here.

People have different views on whether Belle Vue would work better than Newmarket. A lot of it is down to their own location.

Salford is a good example, because the real question to be asked is whether they would have done better with a redeveloped Willows than they have done with a move. The answer is, I suspect, more complex than simple numbers.

The fan numbers wouldn't have gone down, I'm sure of that, but the corporate side might not have gone up. There is a theory that better facilities and location for corporate clients means more money for players, which means more fans will arrive. In Salford, however, it just hasn't worked.

On the other hand, a redeveloped Willows may have attracted more fans, and the increased buzz might have attracted more corporate clients.

The one difference we have over Salford, however, is that whatever is behind Belle Vue, the ground itself fronts on to a main road and may be part of a new retail complex. The Willows would never have had that.

I do think the support is there, and casual supporters like shiny new things.

My preference is Belle Vue, but my attachment is emotional, because I don't live near Wakefield any more.

£250 pounds to watch a team can compete is good value for money. No good selling cheap season
tickets if the maths don't work out. We have bought a fAmily ticket so we can take our grandchildren. £50 more than 2 adult tickets. Great value. If we want a team that can compete we can't expect cheap as chips season tickets. Last time that happened the club ended up with lots of ccj's against them

£ 250 is excellent value, I would not give any discount to students, they get tons of hand outs, massive loans that they don`t have to repay , mothers do their washing and ironing. Any discount that club were thinking of giving students should go to nurses but they would have to wear their uniforms on match days as proof of employment.

£250 is absolutely fair, cant wait for the new season !

As for students, it's a bit more complicated.
The last thing we want is for kids to get to 16 or 18 and stop coming to games, so its finding the best way to keep them rolling through the turnstiles.
Although I see your point about their easy life and getting their washing and ironing done, it's more about the best way to keep them on board and how to get them to pay a fair amount to watch the game.
If, by classing them as adults and charging full whack, they stop coming and lose interest, then the 16 years that went before have been a waste and the previous 16 years of getting in for nowt, have been lost.

10k? Maybe for the £1K game v Cas which must be longer than 5 years? Leeds United Reserves game when Robbie Fowler made his debut had a good crowd too but how long ago was that?

£250 is a fair price, and is pretty much standard.

I can only think of the game v Cas when we had that crowd.

We have had the parking issues. One thing that I dont think anyone has mentioned. If it all goes as planned, hotel and supermarket will create a few more jobs for the area.

Well even accounting for the Glover era of over egging attendances it was pretty snug vs Leeds during the Agar tenure (2013 I think).

It is a fair price, convincing people who usually spend the best part of FA to part with it though is difficult. A winning team helps but as bren says there are specialists out their who can help with this although the cost of them will more than likely be prohibitive for a club like Trinity.

I know for some people £250 seems a lot of money, however my view is that we want Wakey to develop and grow and they are asking the fans to pay £250 to watch the team. I am happy to invest some money is something that is in my blood. If the budget for continued improvement is based on season tickets having this price so be it.

We are a team with a clear and documented vision and I'm happy to buy into that as many clubs live hand to mouth on survival. First time in probably forever we are a team on the up in all areas.

This is the perennial argument between accountants and marketeers; accountants like predictability and certainty, based on the past - marketeers advocate spending money to make money - and it's especially problematic to convince people of the effectiveness of marketing and PR, if you don't do it in a professional way that allows you to work out what worked, and do more if it, whilst ditching what didn't.

Henry Ford said some insightful things about advertising and PR, including "a man who stops advertising to save money, is like a man who stops a clock to save time." On the flip side, he also recognised the value of getting it right - "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted - the trouble is, I don't know which half."

Personally, I think the RFL should take more control of how the game is marketed and advertised, with clubs being allowed to personalise campaigns for themselves, within some fairly strict guidelines; a bit like the 'Extraordinary Rugby' campaign of a few years back, which was very strong - but fizzled out.

I certainly think that £250 Is a fair price for the product, I also fully support the decision to reduce costs for young students (though I think the reduction should include mature students on full time courses too). I would also support a small discount for emergency service and military staff (though not in uniform as someone suggested as it's prohibited by almost every agency)

As to marketing the club, I reckon a lot could be learned from how Hull KR and Toronto have marketed themselves through their social media presence, I'd also like to see the club doing more to market the game off-line. Brand recognition is important, and one thing i have noticed this year more than any other, is people walking around town wearing Trinity merchandise. This I suspect is down to the re-brand back to Trinity and using ISC as a supplier who produce excellent leisure wear. More can be done in that regard though, both by the club and us fans.

I certainly think that the potential re-development of Belle Vue will be beneficial both to the area and for the club. Hopefully people will actually want to come and see the stadium when it's complete and we can encourage them to stay. Rugby League is losing it's footing, and it's down to the club's as the top with access to money to help steady the ship for those below, and to help re-develop the sport into something we're proud of

I did read a few weeks ago Egg Banjo, that there are a lot of new builds that have recently gone up in Hull, and Hull KR sent flyers round all the new builds promoting the club.

Just thinking of those new builds that are going up on the Eastern relief road and also Empire Stores. There are probably others too. There could be other sites by 2020

I'll be happy to deliver flyers for the club - I'm sure there are others who would too, the club has a virtually untapped resource in its fans.