No i get shot down cos i dont say how super dooper we are we should of beaten widnes today we havent as for miller really was you watching same game.he never created one thing

Not yet, but when they do lets hope they're for playing against you

One downside of Trinity's that never seems to change whoever coaches us is the inability to "meet" the attack at the play the ball. We stand back and wait for them, therefore costing us 10 metres at every tackle. Thought England was our best forward and there seemed to be an improvement in the defence since last season. We definitely need to speed our attack up somewhat. A reasonable display by Lyne today, I thought.

No i get shot down cos i dont say how super dooper we are we should of beaten widnes today we havent as for miller really was you watching same game.he never created one thing'"

I was starting to come round to the idea of liking Bradford again, after all the shat that Leigh fans spout, then you come on and ruin it.
With your given right attitude, let's not forget you couldn't make it even with all the RFL help.

As has been pointed out, basic errors let us down but if you don't put a platform down, you are always going to struggle.
Thought Arona playing at loose and thinking he had to pass it most of the time, rather than running hard and straight was a giddy mistake.
6-4 with about 5 minutes left in the first half, would have taken that at half time, with the wind at our backs in the second half but a couple of avoidable errors meant we were chasing the game.
Frustrating but nothing that is out of our hands.
And I also thought England was MOM.

On the way out I heard someone say "same old, same old " but I can't agree. As compared to last season we were much faster with ball in hand, better in defensive structures and seemed a fair bit fitter. I thought Miller didn't have a bad game at all - a lot of his attacking didn't actually create a break but he was certainly lively and made Widnes defence think. Where we did manage offloads and short passes with good support we made good progress. Wasn't often enough but it certai ly wasn't 5 forward drives and a kick, or passing the ball and hoping someone else has an idea what to do.

We could have won it and I'm sure Brian Smith will be pointing out how to the lads. We weren't thrashed and Widnes have a pretty stable team but we do need to improve and I'm sure we will. Whether it will be enough only time will tell.

I think smith will draw some positives from this game...
The fitness levels were much better.and apart from the slack second half try we let in ...the last 25 I thought we tackled well. We missed some opportunities with our attack in their 20,but I'm afraid we are going to have to be a bit more patient .im hoping this will come with the more games they play together.remember our half backs are a new combination!!
individual errors at vital times is the reason I think we lost. Going in 18 4 down instead of 12 4 left us just too much to do,
This was the first game, and there will be a few more go under the bridge before we see some cohesion...but you can't fault the effort.
The mistakes cost us the game rather than Widnes playing us off the park like they did last time out
We play the six fingered ones next (who picked up injuries today)hopefully we will see some improvements in this game.

The one big thing was the players are at least fit enough this year and not blowing out their backsides after 20 mins and they never gave up the ghost. Last season we imploded big style it don't look like we will this we would have had this one if not for silly errors cut those out and we wont have a bad side with a bit of work

I thought we were as good as Widnes today on the whole, not much between the sides. What cost the game was the pass from Johnston just before half-time, followed by BJB's howler early in the second half.

If that Wakefield shows up all season, I won't be complaining too much. Remember too that last year, we were world beaters after two games. Can't read too much into anything this early.

Widnes did not get out of third gear today Slugger it was very poor indeed. We may beat sides through effort if the other side doesn't turn up but that's it.

Just because Betts says it doesn't make it true.
We tackled them and slowed them down. That's why they didn't play better. They didn't choose not to play better.

Their tries came from our mistakes. It's not like they bust us every time they got the ball.
They were good enough and we helped them. That's all.

Taking into consideration the poor weather with the wind and freezing conditions I thought that BJB had a poor game, he made a couple of errors from kicks (which is expected with todays conditions) his pass selection/choosing not to pass the ball was poor and I really think he is out of his depth at this level at fullback. He doesn't seem as fluent when joining in the attack and these days fullbacks play as an extra attacking pivot. I'd give him a run and see if things change but if not I'd personally be looking at Tansey to slot in at 1.
Thought Arona was our best player on the field, great footwork and strong in his carries although England bar a few brain farts in defence giving away a few penalties was also a handful. Lyne was also solid today, he always seems to be a scapegoat but played well today especially in defence. I can't wait to have Simon back and firing on all cylinders as last season he was our go to forward who had plenty of acceleration and aggression which got us on the front foot. I also really hope that Finn and Miller can combine quickly as our attack sometimes was panicky.

Coaching didn't cost Trinity that game. Individual errors did. It was a million miles away from the shambles of last season. The defence was generally good and it was noticeable the players rushing to each other to congratulate excellent defensive work. Still plenty to work on, Anthony Tupou looked unfit so hopefully will kick on the more games he has. Miller needs to get back to running at defences, his game isn't about creating opportunities for others. There is still a lack of composure at key times which result in unforced errors which unfortunately cost the team dearly today.

Basic errors killed Trinity as has been said, I thought we were second best in most departments but for the basic errors we still could have won.

2 observations Widnes were awful defending around the ruck, a hooker worth his salt would have killed them, I think Moore plays we win. Still don't get the hype about Johnston.