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Knock the Normy bit off ., but I don't see who I am makes any difference , what I've said is truth,you believe want you want old lad

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I tend to agree with vasty - without knowing all the details of course - but going to play lower league suggests a startling lack of ambition; for a lad so young looking to make a name for himself, a SL berth on a lower than hoped for salary would be better than playing for Leigh?

Train and play your guts out and either earn an improved contract from WTW, or put yourself in the shop window for other SL coaches.

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You haven't a clue bren orr vastly 400quid a week apposed to 160 at wakey working in the community what happened to Chris hill impress with Leigh and your back in super league quick time

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liam kaye going to leigh on decent money plus a job and bonuses..it's his choice! he will probably be on about 30k a year now, there is only so long that parents can support you, good luck to the kid

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It needs looking into, we can't have the young players having to move away because we aren't canny enough to adjust their income to allow them to move up the ranks,
it's ok saying that they should knuckle down and work harder but it costing them far more than the usual lad of his age just in eating the correct diet

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I'm stuck in two camps on this. You want a young player to show ambition and guts to want to push for a place and better contract, but they can't live on determination and faith in a coach to see something in them. I think I'd see being offered 8k as a snub and an offer that the club felt it had to make. I'd go for the money and work my off to get noticed.

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Quote: tamargrace "liam kaye going to leigh on decent money plus a job and bonuses..it's his choice! he will probably be on about 30k a year now, there is only so long that parents can support you, good luck to the kid'"


He'd have to get a well-paid job then! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: try scorer "You haven't a clue bren orr vastly 400quid a week apposed to 160 at wakey working in the community what happened to Chris hill impress with Leigh and your back in super league quick time'"

8k a year for someone who did not have a game in SL sounds right to me, equally 20k sounds right for someone in their first contract with everything to prove and given an opportunity to do it.
Whether that is at Leigh or at Wakefield is up to him, and the club.

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Quote: kinleycat "8k a year for someone who did not have a game in SL sounds right to me, equally 20k sounds right for someone in their first contract with everything to prove and given an opportunity to do it.
Whether that is at Leigh or at Wakefield is up to him, and the club.'"

8k a year for a full time professional rugby league player in his 20s who has played for the first team and seen as a squad player is absolute rubbish. He'd get more stacking shelves at Aldi for 40 hours per week. He should be on more than that especially when he was being talked about as a short term replacement for Cockayne and a future stand off for the team only a few months ago.

Something wrong with the game when a championship club is more financially attractive to a player than an opportunity at playing at the top level in the game. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: asmadasa "8k a year for a full time professional rugby league player in his 20s who has played for the first team and seen as a squad player is absolute rubbish. He'd get more stacking shelves at Aldi for 40 hours per week. He should be on more than that especially when he was being talked about as a short term replacement for Cockayne and a future stand off for the team only a few months ago.

Something wrong with the game when a championship club is more financially attractive to a player than an opportunity at playing at the top level in the game.
I think the issue is a game wide one - especially outside the 'rich' clubs. £8k per annum may not be much reward, but then here is the gamble - and the reason so many accept this - if they really think they can make it in the game then the rewards can be substantial - not necessarily for all - but a good number of them earn a lot more than I do after 30 years in my trade as a senior manager - for playing sport!

Each player needs to work out the best way for themselves - for some it is full time RL, for others it is part time RL and something else - each to their own I guess.

I feel that, based on what I understand we offered, we have done what we can in the circumstances and, whilst disappointed to see Liam leave, I would wish him well in his venture - as we all do. However, we can only make a judgement on his worth to our club and that doesn't seem to be enough at this point! icon_sad.gif

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Quote: try scorer "You haven't a clue bren orr vastly 400quid a week apposed to 160 at wakey working in the community what happened to Chris hill impress with Leigh and your back in super league quick time'"


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Uncalled for, you totally undermine the rest of your post with the childish namecalling.


No I'm not clues and I'm fully aware that 8k is a poor return for 3-4 years in the game. And yes it's even more insulting when you consider what Mellors was robbing us for - but wasn't it ever thus, Lions led by Donkey's.

If you'd bothered to read my post I made it very clear that if Liam was in it just for the cash Leigh is a decent move - I can't blame him.

However that wasn't the point, I wanted him to stick two fingers up to Agar and MC (mean that in a nice way) and prove to them he's the dogs doo dahs and make them pay him the kind of money we were wasting on Mellors - wouldn't that be great?

As for Chris Hill he started at Leigh, he didn't drop a division as you suggest and come back. A better example is Danny Brough. However all I can say is thats a risky gamble and a hard slog compared to producing one half decent SL season and getting a fat contract that way - just my theory and far from clueless.

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How many of them earn more than you do after playing RL for 30 years though Phil.

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Quote: asmadasa "8k a year for a full time professional rugby league player in his 20s who has played for the first team and seen as a squad player is absolute rubbish. He'd get more stacking shelves at Aldi for 40 hours per week. He should be on more than that especially when he was being talked about as a short term replacement for Cockayne and a future stand off for the team only a few months ago.

Something wrong with the game when a championship club is more financially attractive to a player than an opportunity at playing at the top level in the game.
That's a rely poor argument, if he wants to stack shelves at Aldi then who's stopping him?

No one is owed a living and Kay has far from proved himself so an increase on 8k however modest is fair IMO. It's a chance to back himself what more can any of us ask- worthy though it is as a job shelf stacking at Aldi is it's abject surrender compared to having a real go at becoming a top RL Pro - something most of us can only dream of.

My son who is the same age lives on about 8K a year doing a job he doesn't love while he works hard on the side pursuing his real interest - so excuse me if I don't weep for Liam getting the same for playing a game!

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Quote: vastman "Deary me you remind me of myself, all be it a more uncouth and poorly educated version lack ing in style and charisma. Oh and I'm not being serious a lot of the time, more an agent provocateur.

No I'm not clues and I'm fully aware that 8k is a poor return for 3-4 years in the game. And yes it's even more insulting when you consider what Mellors was robbing us for - but wasn't it ever thus, Lions led by Donkey's.

If you'd bothered to read my post I made it very clear that if Liam was in it just for the cash Leigh is a decent move - I can't blame him.

However that wasn't the point, I wanted him to stick two fingers up to Agar and MC (mean that in a nice way) and prove to them he's the dogs doo dahs and make them pay him the kind of money we were wasting on Mellors - wouldn't that be great?

As for Chris Hill he started at Leigh, he didn't drop a division as you suggest and come back. A better example is Danny Brough. However all I can say is thats a risky gamble and a hard slog compared to producing one half decent SL season and getting a fat contract that way - just my theory and far from clueless.

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Another example was Jamie Ellis, who left Saints for Leigh, had a storming season and signed for Cas. I suspect the jury is still out on Jamie though, as he still has it all to prove - but at least on a decent wage, after his 12 month 'drop in status' at Leigh.

Wherever Liam ends up this season, I'm willing to bet that he definitely sees his future in Sooper Dooper League. Of course, at least technically, that could still be at somewhere like Fev, Fax, or Leigh. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: El Rey "How many of them earn more than you do after playing RL for 30 years though Phil.'"


Yeah but they have had the pleasure of earning a good living from what is basically a hobby - there is no such thing as a free meal and they are no more entitled to it than me. Enjoy it whilst it lasts and prepare to join the real world when it ends. I know it's different in a few other sports but RL is not one of them sadly - they know that when they start.

Sorry to be harsh, but there is an undeserved sense of entitlement in the game of RL where players are concerned. In reality it's always been a case that only the very best make a lifetimes living from the game.

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