I don't think anyone can critiise you after the time and effort that you guys have put into this project and like everyone else I hope all your hard work pays off one way or the other. I wouldn't take the moans personally mate. I know it's hard probably not to though. Anyway thanks for all the time you and others have put into this. I certainly wouldn't have had the patience to have been involved.

no bud, It has become a stand off and can't see which way it will go

Thanks for the support!

99% of those who post on the subject, those who are despondent, critical of the Council, critical of the Developer, apathetic, negative or otherwise disbelieving of there ever being something tangible at Newmarket or Belle Vue are not aiming their feelings or venting their anger at you or Sandal Cat or IA or anyone from SWAG or RfN.

I shouldn't have to say this again but I have the utmost respect for you guys and any comments I make are not designed to undermine you or the work you've done and continue to do. Suggestions I make are not meant to be smart, holier than thou, condescending or patronising but genuine suggestions designed to create debate.

Crack on fellas, the vast majority are behind you and appreciate your endeavours

You're right. Everyone wants something to happen - those that moan and those that don't! I am a little disappointed in some that know me, but hey ho.

Right, enough of this self indulgent stuff!

Apologies to all.

Back on the bike.....

you have it and always have, but its not like its going in any direction, by all means keep banging on the door but its about time the Wakefield council did something more positive instead of fobbing you off

Agree snowie its time the council stopped hiding

its the council that has had its pants pulled down by york court but can't be d to correct its mistake by standing firm and not letting them get away with it, I cant help but feel that there's no effort due to who's in charge and where he stands in his position, anyone can say their trying but then turn the other cheek

Things are improving!

It sounds like Yorkcourt have got the council over a barrel and they know it. They were able to generate the support for the development by linking it to a new stadium but the council had to sell it to the non-rugby general public in Wakefield on the basis of job-creation. Can the council really say to the Wakefield public that they're going to try and put a stop to it because of the lack of a stadium when it was supposed to be about jobs and wealth creation? The public will just say that it was only ever about a stadium.

The economy is in the doldrums and I guess that Yorkcourt realise that the council will do nothing to a stop a development that will generate jobs, regardless of the chicanery that got the approval.

I suppose I am a relative newcomer to this forum but have followed it closely since. The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that there never seems to be any criticism of the old regimes that over many years got the Trin in such a mess. The abuse and criticism seems to be reserved exclusively for the very people who are trying to dig you out of the hole.
As for the £1,000 per share idea just remember there may be more than Trin fans willing to chip in.

I think all the false dawns and promises of the previous years has added greatly to the general feeling of, oh no not again and I'll believe when I see it attitude.

As for criticism of the old regimes mate, even in my tiime on this forum, it's been done to death.

If you'd been around longer, you'd know how wrong that was. The problem seems to be that every new saviour promises the world but delivers nothing. The current "saviours" (Yorkcourt) are merely getting their time in the spotlight.

One thing that can be said about Michael Carter is that he's different from all the rest because he's promised nothing but delivered something, stability.

I think we will have some good positive Wakefield stadium news in the next few weeks.

Hope that is based on something you have knowledge of and not just ' wishful thinking'.