I take with a pinch of salt about whatever I read on here about what this manni's plans are, you mention shops and apartment blocks common sense tells there's not enough room for all the conjecture surrounding what's happening, there's one thing I'm dying to know, why are the council with all their land at their disposal building a new stadium on somebody else's land.

There's no guarantee it will mean a loss of Wakey fans either. Infact it could open the doors to closet Wakey fans who don't necessarily live in Wakefield but the Wakey post code, and are put off by the state of Belle Vue. I know a few of these.


And just to refer to your last post: it wasn't imagined up on here about Manni's plans to include apartments and shops on the Belle Vue site.

Not convinced that Belle Vue is any more inconveniently sited than Headingley, Halliwell Jones, JJB, new Saints ground, Wheldon Road, Widnes ground, Hull KR ground, KC Stadium. Of those, only Wigan and KC offer parking for your average fans.

Newmarket IS inconveniently sited. If you want to go, you've got to drive. You can't hop on the train or bus, or park and walk (due to the matchday restrictions that would be put in place locally). You'd be stuck with whatever queues exist, and we've seen how that has worked out at Salford. Lower home attendance.

The plus for Newmarket is the clean slate and decent parking for corporate clients, in somewhere new and glittering, and it's in the corporate boxes where you make the money. They're the ones who are throwing in the big money sponsorship deals and paying for the boxes. If the attendance remained the same, the extra corporate income for Newmarket would mean more money for better players, which might then increase attendance for better success, etc. It might have little impact immediately, but in terms of cashflow and money for players, Newmarket is where it was at.

My preference for Belle Vue is emotional only. But then again, that's why you follow a club.

Tricky.

All the speculation is pointless from the likes of me. I do just wish we would get more updates even if it's just 'still waiting for this or that.' 'Expected news in approximately X ' that sort of thing. We've had big announcements then silence then it's all off again for years now. If this is real now, then updates would b a good idea. Good for season ticket sales too maybe

Nah it wasn't, it's at the top of his home site here. The pictures roll through if you stop on them. I know most have seen them before but for those that haven't rlhttp://www.88m.co.uk/rl

I'm in the bracket like many of I'll believe it when I see it, but also very much in the corner of, even if we do get a stadium exactly how it is designed on his artist's impression, what about the rest of the project that was promised, where's that money going. There was so much more to this than a stadium, let alone a tarted up Belle Vue of any kind. Obviously, time is against us and MC and fans will take what we can get to continue our journey but the whole Newmarket project story is scandalous imo.

Quote: little wayne69 "Also there is no guarantee it will bring in extra fans either, as for additional post presumably you can provide a link to this manni's plans announcement, or is it just speculation like your first paragraph.'" https://sw.co.uk/news/8-latest-news/974 ... -new-owner Fill your boots fella. Not the original link/article I saw, but to be honest I can't be @rsed fishing around too much. Pretty sure this is visible on the artists impressions of the ground also. ".....purchase by 88m Group not just of the stadium itself but the adjoining former Superbowl site has revealed exciting new multi million pound plans for a new state of the art community stadium with student accommodation & retail park.”

Quote: little wayne69 "Also there is no guarantee it will bring in extra fans either, as for additional post presumably you can provide a link to this manni's plans announcement, or is it just speculation like your first paragraph.'" https://sw.co.uk/news/8-latest-news/974 ... -new-owner Fill your boots fella. Not the original link/article I saw, but to be honest I can't be @rsed fishing around too much. Pretty sure this is visible on the artists impressions of the ground also. ".....purchase by 88m Group not just of the stadium itself but the adjoining former Superbowl site has revealed exciting new multi million pound plans for a new state of the art community stadium with student accommodation & retail park.”

Wasn't it suggested by someone that 88M had been offered other land around Wakefield, to compensate for the loss of the stadium land.

You could well be right who knows which brings me to my point, there's that much speculation and that many conspiracy theories going about and tbf most of them are credible that it's difficult to decide what to believe, there's one thing for sure manni and Box will know, whether anybody else comes close is everybody's guess.

Anyway my main point was in answer to jizz's claim that it would be better for everybody if we moved to Newmarket, well the short answer to that is no it wouldn't.

Not sure what you mean by 'everybody'. Would it be better for little old Margret who walks to Belle Vue from down the road? Probably not. Would it be better for the club in the long run, improve the match day experience and expand the fan base? We'll probably never know! We'll just have to agree to disagree

Wasn't that Thornes park for housing or have I dreamt that?

Or maybe hotel/restaurant at thornes park

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Yes, Jinger, it was.

I'm sure though, I do recall, that towards the latter part of last year, these plans, were scrapped.

I think, without digging up the past, this area would have been ideal.

I can't quite remember how the plans were laid out, but living in Thornes nowadays, I can't help wondering, what if, how could it all look now. I even look at the athletics track, and just think could all that have been developed round there. Can't quite remember, how the plans looked and exactly where the stadium would have been etc. Would be interesting seeing how the plans for it was designed.

That's what I mean, not everybody wants to go NM myself and a lot more included is that so difficult to understand.

Totally understand. We can nit pick all we like - the main question is what's best for the club in the long run. The argument is redundant as we'll never end up at Newmarket anyway (by the looks). Probably best off just leaving this one and respect the fact people have contrasting views, understandably so.