I think the fans have been very patient with the coach and much of the flack is rightly now falling on sir mick or Lord mick or the messiah or I'm billy big boots bigger than the club Carter but I think if the fans crank it up the coach will go

Also a supporter of over 65 years and feeling now resigned to our fate. I feel that it is time for the people in charge who have obviously achieved a great deal in very trying circumstances to communicate with the fans, admit mistakes have been made and develop a strategy to salvage the rest of the season and also outline the way forward if relegation does come. In conclusion I will add that I will be supporting next season come what may. It is what I do.

I think most supporters agree with some aspects of both sides of the argument. I think what is annoying most supporters is the lack of communication coming from the top. Fitness of the players for me seems to be way short, especially our new overseas signings, who perhaps thought it was going to be far easier than it actually is. Im not sure the sacking of Mash is the answer as it just wastes more money , that could be better spent on playing staff. Most agree its a step too far to revive our season, perhaps it is, but that can be a positive as some have said, watching a team winning some games and building success slowly is better than watching us playing with no zip, staying up and being even worse next season.

I have no beef with anyone on here (except an odd few who seem to think that the world is full of unicorns and money grows on trees) I contributed to this thread because I thought the whole issue lacks balance… and it’s becoming a witch hunt… which I believe is in the best interests of no one.

I actually think the business strategy for the future of the club is a good one… stymied by the pandemic and recession (the causes of which are another vitriolic debate) but… our club is living within its means.. other clubs are not… one only has to look at the demise of some leading RU clubs in the UK to wonder at the fate of some of our clubs. When debt becomes unsustainable or the hobby directors move on??? What then!


That I now live in Australia… should be a reason for me not to have (or not be allowed to express) an opinion on the matter (despite my being a fairly regular face at the club from 75 to 200icon_cool.gif is disappointing. I would suggest that it is you don’t like me having the opinion I do… rather than that it is expressed from overseas that is the issue.

I subscribe to Trinity TV and watch every game(despite knowing the result) and live on Fox Sports when I can… and on my infrequent visits to the UK I have been to every game available… including academy games… my love for the club and the game has not changed since that first game against Keighley in 1975.. it gets in your blood and won’t go away.

Anyway I love this club and will be a fan until I die.

Well said mate and good on you.
Say what you want on here and bascially if some don't like it - .

Edited, i support your sentiment but say what you want but without swearing BG. - Poptart

Thats a little aspirational - maybe in an ideal world.

Emotions do play a massive part in sports , and by extension the fans, and hence the odd outburst in here.

And victory is indeed obtained by those seeking revenge. You live down there. You’ve seen State of Origin, right?

Well said Spooki. Hope you are well.

We all have our ideas as to how we are where we are, but I haven't seen anyone come up with an answer to the problem yet, other than sack him or he has to go.
Is that alone going to get us out of this mess, we have no money to speak off, so what's the answer?????

Well as re. changing the coach, we'll never know if that improves the players' performances with a new one, until it happens will we?! The performances mainly have been very similar, despite using most of the squad, and bringing in loan players, so what does that tell us? The coach can't seem to rectify the problems, or the majority of the squad aren't up to it consistently, too many past their best, not enough quality in the key positions? Therefore it would take a very good, experienced coach to turn this around without significant recruitment, which takes money for starters......so we pretty much are knackered whichever way you look at things!! So i'm not sure there is an answer that's viable and attainable.

Quote: Wildmoggy "Well as re. changing the coach, we'll never know if that improves the players' performances with a new one, until it happens will we?! The performances mainly have been very similar, despite using most of the squad, and bringing in loan players, so what does that tell us? The coach can't seem to rectify the problems, or the majority of the squad aren't up to it consistently, too many past their best, not enough quality in the key positions? Therefore it would take a very good, experienced coach to turn this around without significant recruitment, which takes money for starters......so we pretty much are knackered whichever way you look at things!! This sums it up for me. Interesting article in the media today from Francis Cummins saying players were being shown the door with no plans for recruitment at the end of last season….. “It just appears that Willie had been making decisions about players he wanted and nothing happened and players he was letting go he didn’t get to replace them. “It just went on too long and the writing was on the wall that they weren’t going to spend the money that they saved.” https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1177215511?-4 ... atest_news

Quote: Wildmoggy "Well as re. changing the coach, we'll never know if that improves the players' performances with a new one, until it happens will we?! The performances mainly have been very similar, despite using most of the squad, and bringing in loan players, so what does that tell us? The coach can't seem to rectify the problems, or the majority of the squad aren't up to it consistently, too many past their best, not enough quality in the key positions? Therefore it would take a very good, experienced coach to turn this around without significant recruitment, which takes money for starters......so we pretty much are knackered whichever way you look at things!! This sums it up for me. Interesting article in the media today from Francis Cummins saying players were being shown the door with no plans for recruitment at the end of last season….. “It just appears that Willie had been making decisions about players he wanted and nothing happened and players he was letting go he didn’t get to replace them. “It just went on too long and the writing was on the wall that they weren’t going to spend the money that they saved.” https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1177215511?-4 ... atest_news

But that’s not our job is it?

So we have no money, just how much money don't we have. Carter's done a marvellous job on brainwashing the supporters and getting them to constantly spill the same skint message.
So I ask again just how much money don't we have. If you remember our recruitment was going to take shape because it was a world Cup and plenty of quality players would be available.

He's not brainwashed everyone, and certainly not me.