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Quote: little wayne69 "Quite right BG, I've heard it a few times from some of his mates that BLM never goes to the bar
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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "We do appear to be one club that likes to do their dirty washing in the public. This in itself reflects badly on the club or all the rest would do the same.'"


Get a grip ffs.
If someone releases this info to the press or suchlike, there's not much the club can do about is there???

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "We do appear to be one club that likes to do their dirty washing in the public. This in itself reflects badly on the club or all the rest would do the same.'"

Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Wait till the season starts back, and listen to scarlet pimpernel and wilzay doing some proper whinging about the club.'"

I knew it would only be a matter of time icon_rolleyes.gif

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The problem is that it is the club that is doing it which I thought was pretty obvious. If it was such a good way to handle negotiations why are no other clubs doing the same. It appears we are looking to replace large parts of the existing squad with cheaper options the club believe will be available. This is not me saying this but the club made it clear this was their plan.

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Quote: BarnsleyGull "Get a grip ffs.
If someone releases this info to the press or suchlike, there's not much the club can do about is there???'"

The info has come from the club hasn’t it?

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Quote: Sacred Cow "The info has come from the club hasn’t it?'"

No it hasn't, it's come from an agent.

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Quote: little wayne69 "No it hasn't, it's come from an agent.'"


The agent must be called Michael Carter because the article in the Mirror clearly indicated that the strike threat from a senior player came from a statement he made.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "The agent must be called Michael Carter because the article in the Mirror clearly indicated that the strike threat from a senior player came from a statement he made.'"

Ah it must be right if the mirror says so.

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Back to the point. Don't you get zero pay if you strike?
why bother you can't get blood out of a stone.

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Whilst some people might think sky are calling the shots on when teams play, over the super league era they have pumped millions into our game which as been totally squandered on overseas players and 30 odd year olds who should not be still playing. The administration of the clubs and the rfl as not been fit for purpose and although we are in strange times we have been asking for trouble as a game. When you get Bradford going bust when they were getting tv deals, sponsers, prize money and gates over 20000 at some games says it all.
Is a player in the wrong or breaking any laws by refusing to take a pay cut or is he in his rights to walk away as a free agent if the club refuse to pay his full contract and would downing tools be breaking his contract in the circumstances. If any players wants to walk then I hope the club use the money to pay the players their full salary.

The RFL was given 16 million to safeguard the future of the game and Ralph rimmer said it would be used wisely, I’ve no idea where this money as gone but 500000 each equates to 6 million spread through the super league clubs with 10 million left.

This could actually be a blessing in the long run where we could bring a sport back from the brink by producing our own players and stopped wasting money, I think the game well I know the game is in a bad state, let’s just hope it survives

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "Whilst some people might think sky are calling the shots on when teams play, over the super league era they have pumped millions into our game which as been totally squandered on overseas players and 30 odd year olds who should not be still playing. The administration of the clubs and the rfl as not been fit for purpose and although we are in strange times we have been asking for trouble as a game. When you get Bradford going bust when they were getting tv deals, sponsers, prize money and gates over 20000 at some games says it all.
Is a player in the wrong or breaking any laws by refusing to take a pay cut or is he in his rights to walk away as a free agent if the club refuse to pay his full contract and would downing tools be breaking his contract in the circumstances. If any players wants to walk then I hope the club use the money to pay the players their full salary.

The RFL was given 16 million to safeguard the future of the game and Ralph rimmer said it would be used wisely, I’ve no idea where this money as gone but 500000 each equates to 6 million spread through the super league clubs with 10 million left.

This could actually be a blessing in the long run where we could bring a sport back from the brink by producing our own players and stopped wasting money, I think the game well I know the game is in a bad state, let’s just hope it survives'"


Nobody can argue with this.
If any of us have a new contract put in front of us, we're not obliged to sign.
However, if the correct channels have been gone through, the only option left is to sign or, walk away.

The £16,000,000 IIRC wasn't allowed to be used for wages, although I'm sure that some clever administrators can divert some monies in all sorts of directions to engineer anything taken from the "pot" to use in different areas. However, it's a loan and not a gift and will still need paying back.

You have to have sympathy for all businesses, effectively prevented from trading, to stop the spread of the virus and there will be 1000's of businesses that simply run out of money and football / rugby clubs etc are certainly vulnerable.

Although things in England are generally better than they were, in terms of the virus, Covid is spreading like hell in other areas of the world and even scraping to the end of the season may only delay the inevitable.

If they can manage to do so, the players need to do all they can to help keep the sport breathing.
It wont suit every player but, the alternatives dont bear thinking about for the players or the clubs.

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "Whilst some people might think sky are calling the shots on when teams play, over the super league era they have pumped millions into our game which as been totally squandered on overseas players and 30 odd year olds who should not be still playing. The administration of the clubs and the rfl as not been fit for purpose and although we are in strange times we have been asking for trouble as a game. When you get Bradford going bust when they were getting tv deals, sponsers, prize money and gates over 20000 at some games says it all.
Is a player in the wrong or breaking any laws by refusing to take a pay cut or is he in his rights to walk away as a free agent if the club refuse to pay his full contract and would downing tools be breaking his contract in the circumstances. If any players wants to walk then I hope the club use the money to pay the players their full salary.

The RFL was given 16 million to safeguard the future of the game and Ralph rimmer said it would be used wisely, I’ve no idea where this money as gone but 500000 each equates to 6 million spread through the super league clubs with 10 million left.

This could actually be a blessing in the long run where we could bring a sport back from the brink by producing our own players and stopped wasting money, I think the game well I know the game is in a bad state, let’s just hope it survives'"


The £16M was a loan that needs to be repaid and I believe Michael made the decision to safeguard the future of the club by not taking on debt that will need to be repaid down the line for short term benefit. When you consider that every club is going to lose £280K (I think that was the figure) from next years Sky funding then having a debt that needs to be repaid out of reduced funding seems the wrong thing to do.
I'm pretty sure that Michael knows what the club can and can't afford to do, after all he has masterminded getting us out of debt and onto an even keel over the last few years. I'm also pretty sure that he will be constantly evaluating the options to see if we need to do something different.

At the end of the day, without a sugar daddy that can pump millions in each year then we have to cut our cloth accordingly.

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Doesnt a 12 week consultation have to take place befote any alterations to contract can be supplied

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Quote: lampyboy "Doesnt a 12 week consultation have to take place befote any alterations to contract can be supplied'"


Yeah, and about 5 minutes consultation before a business or club goes bust.

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What sickens me is the likes of multi-billionaire corporate companies like SKY who would willingly stand by and watch Super League disappear. OK, they have kept the game going for twenty-four years but look what they've had in return. To finance the cost of survival of Super League would be the equivalent to the likes of me and thee losing a pound coin out of our pockets.
It's the same with Barnsley FC. Their American /Chinese multi-billionaire owners have stated that they will not dip into their pockets to save the Club going under.

It makes you feel sick icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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