Still alcohol isn't it.

Old Jim lives on the bella, was watching Wakey before I was born, I'm sure he'd agree with you if you told him he was too idle to bike it up there.

I think he's drinking something a lot stronger than Shandy (possibly 24 hours a day with some of the utter tripe that gets posted)

Newmarket will be a no starter, and that's fine by me. Trying to get the public to visit a stadium with nothing around it in the middle of an industrial estate, and only one A road to it would have proved troublesome . Free buses I bet,
Wipe the slate clean, back to the drawing board and start again.

Thornes Park would have been perfect but we have a backward council. Newmarket was then stated as our only option but that looks unlikely now and is abit out of the way, they're plenty of other sites within the City boundary old empire stores site, paragon etc but if our only option is to stay and upgrade Belle Vue I'd be happy as long as it's well thought our and a proper redevelopment.

I would sooner visit an area that you describe as opposed to Agbrigg. Lets face it apart from the ground why the hell would anyone want to go down there. You can create a great ground down there if you have the money but the surrounding area will always massive negative.

A industrial estate? I suggest you walk on Aberford Road and look how beautiful the fields are and the River its picturesc. The KC doesn't look that bad does it? Aggbrig is beautiful and the empty superbowl and the empty montys bar. Look amazing?! I travel 5minutes by car to belle vue or I pay 6 pound in a taxi not once do I moan if people think Newmarket is a bad location you are crazy, its only bad for lazy people who ain't true fans. Away fans its ideal also.

As it's taken you an hour and a half to reply, I take it you have been having a stroll in the fields and by the river to back your statement up and make you feel better?
Do most fans frollick in the fields before a game?
It will take more than fields and a river to get the fans flocking in!
What about the Conny Club? The Duke? The Ruddy Duck?
I praised the KC, if you missed that?

This whole business of the ground is frankly now boring- but I suppose I would rather stay at Belle Vue because I've been going there that long I see it as the clubs spiritual home.
I'll believe a new/improved stadium when I see it but for now I'd settle for a but more success on the field (the best in RL incidentally).

How can anybody get bored strolling all the way up Aberford road to look at the green green grass of Newmarket, then close your eyes and listen to the motorway traffic screaming past whilst smelling the fragrant aroma of the river. another good point is that its only 6 quid in a taxi the bad news is that's only one way, if you don't want to sample the delights that Newmarket has to offer then I'm afraid its 12quid round trip, that's not bad for the affluent newby who 5 years' ago was on 40k a year, can't imagine what wedge he's on now, but if that's the price you put on being a proper Wakey fan then it's money well spent.

Aberford road a well known ramblers route, because of the lack of footpaths.

Seems to be quite a bit of rubbish being spoken on here about which location is best, by both sides. For me personally Newmarket would win hands down. I could walk there from my home. The facilities originally described there are unlikely to ever be provided at Belle Vue there simply isn't the space. If you are a fan with a car it's very easy to get to along Aberford Road or along Leeds Road and then down through Patrick Green. For an away fan travelling by car it would be fantastic to get to straight off the M62. What the parking arrangements would be like I don't know but could it really be worse than Belle Vue?

If you don't have a car there are currently only two bus services an hour that go near Newmarket to/from Wakefield and one which runs infrequently from Rothwell to Castleford which passes the location. It has been accepted that the bus service would have to be improved if the stadium is built.

The distance by car is shown on Google as 4.5 miles from the Bull Ring taking 11 minutes. Walking comes up with 4.2 miles.

As for Belle Vue, having been going there since 1960 I would miss the place but what worries me is that very little redevelopment would actually take place and income would stagnate. So for me it has to be Newmarket if we ever want to grow this once great club of ours.

Oh! and by the way my Grandfather managed to get from Rothwell to Belle Vue every match until he died by two buses.

I did forget about the watering hole situation and can confirm that since the closure of the Spindle tree the nearest pubs are the Thatched House in Stanley, The Rising Sun Bottomboat and the Mexborough Arms which is further down Newmarket Lane. These three are all about 20 -25 minutes walk away from where the stadium would be and I'm sure would relish the extra business.

Head or heart ?

As I've been going to Belle Vue for over 50 years and despite its run down state my heart says Belle Vue.

But my head says Newmarket. Newmarket would be a new modern stadium and I know some people think they are soul less but it would I believe be better at attracting new supporters because of the novelty of being new. Also whilst there may be public transport issues to overcome I think its in a better location appearance wise than Belle Vue. I also believe that its location adjacent to the motorway would make it more attractive to outside parties looking to use the stadium for conferences, meetings etc. which would produce more income generation potential and give us a better and more sustainable future.

So my vote is for Newmarket but if we were to have a complete rebuild and I mean a complete rebuild of Belle Vue rather than a lick of paint or repair I could accept that.

I'd rather have a new stadium, hands down; even with a refurb of BV, we'll never shake off our small time image, nor will we escape the infrastructure problems that currently hamper us - parking, facilities, access, additional revenue streams etc etc.

That ship appears to have been hijacked by Colin Mackie however, so I guess we'll take whatever consolation prize is on offer.