For once i seem to be in agreement with Mopsey, all halfbacks need the forwards to lay the platform for them to be able to work their magic. If you look at all of the successful teams over the years they have all had very good packs and if you just take the super league era you have to look at Bradford who were dominant mainly due to the fact that they had the best pack around in the early and mid 2000's and also Leeds towards then end of the last decade had in my opinion the best set of forwards.

So to summurise i think that if our pack is dominant in a game then Jeffries will have a good game but if the pack is overrun then Jeffries will struggle and it is the same with all halfbacks not just BJ.

You and Mopsey are correct imo, still won't stop Ben copping it though.

When will we stop looking for excuses for Ben Jeffries? The sun was not on his back, he was behind a beaten pack, and we only had oranges at half time
Was he behind a beaten pack every week at Bradford NO was he still bloody rubbish YES let’s just face it hes nothing but a nancy boy who will never cut it at SL level be it at Wakefield Bradford Wigan or Leeds and we were daft enough to sign him again

Pathetic.

he is that BJ that is

yep, no point complaining about what we can't change. Support the lads who turn up to play, for God's sake. Let's make this the funnest tiest season ever. Let's just get together and have a laugh. Enjoy your rugby and get behind the lads.

so already bj is up for scape goat and milk is up for most pointless topic issue and lets face it anything other than whole milk is just plain garbage

Top post might as well go out smiling and enjoying it!

Many a true word spoken by a madman

mopseys not a mad man he speaks a lot of truth and has passion i totally agree halfbacks cant win a game alone they need a dominant pack to wear down the opposition get them on the back foot and allow them to play , last season early doors we did that with brough as his halfback partner taking more pressure off him he was sensational the first quarter of the season we allowed brough to go lost our go forward prop in tronc and it all went pop, cut the guy some slack he is an half decent player an even better one in a dominant side but he cant do it alone its a team game support him dont criticise him