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"I know guys that pay £25 for a facial up north"
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| Quote: Soldierboy "Such is life and that why i want no cap and relegation.'"
Because having no cap would end up with teams going bust and having to be rescued year in, year out....
Would I be happy if Wakefield lost their place in Super League and became a feeder for someone else - if it meant to survival of my club then yes, because there's always the chance in the future of getting back in there, if you keep on trying to fulfil the other criteror.
Salford/Celtic's crowds are irrelevant if they met enough of the other criteror to gain a franchise. If you had a better business team prior to 2008, you might be in there now. |
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| Quote: Quel Suprise! "Personally it wont work for me as we will be kicked out in 3 years.'"
And rightly so, no light bulbs' in the gents. Its no more than we deserve imo  |
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2015 - major missed opportunity, 2016 - stronger teams = harder task (no problem there then), 2017 - OMG What now!!!:953.jpg |
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Because having no cap would end up with teams going bust and having to be rescued year in, year out....
Would I be happy if Wakefield lost their place in Super League and became a feeder for someone else - if it meant to survival of my club then yes, because there's always the chance in the future of getting back in there, if you keep on trying to fulfil the other criteror.
Salford/Celtic's crowds are irrelevant if they met enough of the other criteror to gain a franchise. If you had a better business team prior to 2008, you might be in there now.'"
But as a feeder, with this countrys' sporting mentality no club will survive. Nothing to play for, not worth watching. Even the hardcore will dwindle. Watch the NLs over the next 3 years, one club already into adminsitration. |
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"I know guys that pay £25 for a facial up north"
"If that season review DVD was an A-level entry, it'd fail":15996.jpg |
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| Quote: DemonUK "Watch the NLs over the next 3 years, one club already into adminsitration.'"
That's hardly new though is it? |
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EVENTUALLY, WE'LL WIN SOMETHING, ,MAYBE, IF I'M STILL ALIVE THEN:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_31007.jpg |
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| Quote: Soldierboy "Well it funny hearing all these comments.If your team got kicked out because stadium crap you be happy been in national league for 3 yrs and a feeder club?I do not think so!I think should be fair for all teams and a promotion and relegation and no cap.On a bias way ste o connor can spend his money and become a great team.lol.Serious now i just get on with it now but i do feel bitter been a widnes fan.We averaged a better attendance last year than salford and celtic.We also have a better stadium and a business team.But hey we dont get a licence.Such is life and that why i want no cap and relegation.'"
Okay, let's scrap the franchise. Oh hang on, Widnes are still not in because they didn't get to the NL final. So why are you bitter? |
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Stirlingshire Saint wrote: If HKR win at Saints, I will personally bare my backside on the town hall steps in Hull.
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In summary, HKR are made up of of a few overrated foreigners, a couple of Wigan rejects and a couple of blokes I have never heard of.
Saints by plenty, by miles even!
Stirlingshire Saint wrote: A walkover for Saints.
HKR are about as poor as it gets.
When referring to the atmosphere of the HJ...
Wire On The Telly wrote: ...
Shame it doesn't keep the sound like the full east stand of HKR. That's atmosphere.:40171.gif |
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| Quote: mutley cat "NO !
clubs like batley/dewsbury/featherstone/barrow/york/hull kr/sheffield/gateshead/ect will soon die a painful death in my opinion and bexaome nothing more than BARLA standard'"
Oh really.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "Okay, let's scrap the franchise. Oh hang on, Widnes are still not in because they didn't get to the NL final. So why are you bitter?'" Franchise system was on points and if done fairly widnes would have been in.On sky ours was better than wakeys.lol.It all corrupt and celtic where given well too many aussies to get to final last year.  |
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"I know guys that pay £25 for a facial up north"
"If that season review DVD was an A-level entry, it'd fail":15996.jpg |
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| Quote: Soldierboy "Franchise system was on points and if done fairly widnes would have been in.On sky ours was better than wakeys.lol.It all corrupt and celtic where given well too many aussies to get to final last year. ![]()
Prove it wasn't fair. You do realise that Sky's assesments on Boots 'n' All were personal opinions of the reporter based on the facts provided and assumptions made - not on the documents each club submitted to the RFL.
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| Quote: Soldierboy "Franchise system was on points and if done fairly widnes would have been in.On sky ours was better than wakeys.lol.It all corrupt and celtic where given well too many aussies to get to final last year. ![]()
Unfortunately for you lot, Angela Powers wasn't on the panel deciding who should receive a franchise.
I'm sure your club's application was judged on merit, like the rest.
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| Quote: Soldierboy "Franchise system was on points and if done fairly widnes would have been in.On sky ours was better than wakeys.lol.It all corrupt and celtic where given well too many aussies to get to final last year. ![]()
Yeah, but you were arguing against franchising, but that was the only way you would have got in last year. So franchising is okay provided that you got in.
I agree that we fail on the ground, but my gripe would have been booting out a team who were in Super League based upon on-field merit to put in a team who were not in Super League because they were not good enough on the field but had some nice seats around it. The franchising system for next time is based more around merit, as you have to get to a NL final to be considered, and so it is fairer.
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'That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party.... So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin':23909.gif |
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Unfortunately for you lot, that complete cretin Angela Powers wasn't on the panel deciding who should receive a franchise.
I'm sure your club's application was judged on merit, like the rest.'" |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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The franchise system will work , because it has to , the only way it wont work is if one of the 3 expansion clubs folds because of lack of financial support , they unlike the heartland clubs are not easy to replace , if the RFL have any brains whatsoever they will be topping up a slush fund to bale out any of these clubs if their backers pull out
All this is only a referance to SL of course
Will franchising work for clubs outside SL ?
No
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| Quote: Starbug "The franchise system will work , because it has to , the only way it wont work is if one of the 3 expansion clubs folds because of lack of financial support , they unlike the heartland clubs are not easy to replace , if the RFL have any brains whatsoever they will be topping up a slush fund to bale out any of these clubs when their backers pull out
All this is only a referance to SL of course
Will franchising work for clubs outside SL ?
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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"I know guys that pay £25 for a facial up north"
"If that season review DVD was an A-level entry, it'd fail":15996.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "if the RFL have any brains whatsoever they will be topping up a slush fund to bale out any of these clubs if their backers pull out'"
Which could also apply to many other clubs, not just those 3 you refer to, both in Super League and outside. |
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