Jamie's actually posted more stats on X, those two games are just the ones I linked to.

Every stat from every game in 2024 has been posted on our Twitter / X feed

Well.....as I've seen him do it, I would say he does.

I like Bowden and I really like what he brings to the team but your comment, and I will quote your words again, 'easily the highest' work rate is way off the mark, in terms of stats, which you use to back your argument, he is bottom of the pile when it comes to our front rowers. I'm not the one that started comparing players, I think they have all been brilliant of I'm honest, I just think it does the rest of the pack a disservice to start putting one player 'easily' above the rest, particularly when it's not true.

I see now though that you have made something else up about Bowden been the one that creates trys from his quick ptbs the tackle before a try. You are starting to sound like Vastman, you can never be wrong.

I’ve watched every game on YouTube and live and highlights. It’s not noticeable to me but I will check through a number of highlights and post again shortly.

As I said, I was referring to the page posted, where his carries and tackles were higher.
If the overall stats that I haven't seen say otherwise then so be it.
I like him and I like the others. Can't see why you have a problem with that.

Okay then, let's all just agree Bowden is 'easily' the hardest worker in the pack because in 1 game out of 13, his stats are up there with the others.

My problem isn't that you like Bowden, it's that you've put him head and shoulders above all of the others... In no way shape or form is he easily better than the others in the team.

Bowden is having a belting season, as are most of the forwards, but we need to remember the quality of the opposition they're playing against and not forget how poor some of these players were last year against SL clubs.

Watching the last 5 games back and Bowden takes the drive before once I think, possibly twice but think that was Cozza vs Doncaster as hard to tell.

Uele and Rodwell are common pre try runners with recent games some excellent charges and quick plays.

Surprisingly Hood has featured in a few too and it’s quite random and shared across the park. Good signs I suppose.

I can’t be bothered checking earlier games. That said I am happy with Bowden and think he is a good contributor to our pack as a starting forward. I just don’t see him as the one making quick plays and putting teams on the back foot with quick plays leading to try’s. That said I don’t think it’s his job.

I see him as a player who never makes an error, is experienced and strong in defence to soak up the opposition starting forwards somewhat whilst providing solid in unspectacular carries. There is a lot of value in that and he does a professional job.


I agree with you that Bowden is playing well despite having a difference in opinion on what he offers but we don’t have to agree and ultimately we are both happy fans.

Our pack luckily don’t need to compete with each other and appear to be working together and thriving off each other and their respective styles.

You seem to be putting a lot of effort into proving something I'm not really bothered about.
I don't mind who sets them up.
I noticed him. Maybe it's changed since I noticed it.

I'm happy to accept they spread it around. It was just something I noticed.

Don’t worry I won’t hold you to ransom ha. I checked because I was half curious myself and made for a good watch.

We all see different things in players with our perspective. It’s not a competition between us fans afterall.

I’m thoroughly enjoying watching the forward pack this year. I’m as excited about where they will be in 6-12 months when we are hopefully back in SL. The standard is higher but I’ve seen enough to convince me that these forwards can mix it to possibly get us in that playoff spot next year. Good early signs but a long way to go.

Bowden was always getting the first try after this conversation, maybe Poptart is right after all.

Have the stats been posted for the Swinton game?

He should have had the second try too. Kay held on to ball instead of releasing for Bowden to have a walk in under sticks.

Stats for the Swinton game have been posted now...I'd suggest anybody who finds these interesting follow the 'X' account that goes to all the trouble of collating and publishing the data. Rodwells stats are impressive! https://x.com/WTHeritagePod/status/1792 ... uURzQ&s=19

Stats for the Swinton game have been posted now...I'd suggest anybody who finds these interesting follow the 'X' account that goes to all the trouble of collating and publishing the data. Rodwells stats are impressive! https://x.com/WTHeritagePod/status/1792 ... uURzQ&s=19