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| Yes it did and there's been nobody since.
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| No surprise to me or anyone else seriously involved in the club.
It’s also about time and I mean that is a good way.
Ten years at any club is long enough but at Trinity it’s a lifetime and people need to realise that.
It takes its toll and even someone as capable as MC will have struggled noticeably in recent years from what I see.. It’s just my opinion but he’s not quite the bubbly. Person he was five years ago and I totally understand why. I mean how many CEO have faced a pandemic!
We all have our moment and each moment has a lifespan and MC has possibly reached his. He was the right man for the job in 2013 and for a while gave us imo the best team we’ve had since late 1970s imho and real stability.
This is his choice and I don’t blame him, it must be draining and with very little reward.
I wish him all the best.
I to have stopped posting on here as I believe my time is up and if MC feels half as relieved as I do he’s made the right choice. You can only throw yourself into the fray so many times.
Over to JM now to be totally in charge I presume. I also wish him and his sanity all the best.
I know this falls on deaf ears with many but please please try to be patient, it’s within our grasp now and as they say it’s always darkest before the dawn.
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| Like many have said without him back in the dark days there would have been no club so thankyou to him for that!
It is the time for him to step aside. I believe he has taken us as far as we can go, in an ideal world we need someone with a spark (and cash) to take us forward but who that is or will be is anyone's guess
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| Having read the full statement, especially the part of having to clear his name with the RFL against an agent, who really needs that stress with such a thankless role at times. He’s also put £2 million of his own money in which is a hell of a lot of money to just lose for anyone. I always remember him saying that when we got beat in pre season against Fev the other year he was on holiday and it ruined his holiday as he knew the flack he would be getting. He’s done a stellar job with the funds available and I do not one bit feel bitter that he didn’t plow anymore of his own money into the club, there are not many people about who can afford to do that. Unfortunately that rare individual is needed to take us to the next level.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "And the minute the guy bankrolling that team died the slump really began.'"
Yeah I assume you're referring to Ronnie Fell who was the backer, but we also had Stuart Hadfield a very shrewd businessman as chairman.
You're right though, there was some success after Fell's death but it was diminishing, until it disappeared altogether.
There was then the Wembley team of 79, which never hit the heights of the 1960's team, and seemed to have been built solely to get us to Wembley because, after that final it was dismantled faster then any other team I've known!
We do need that backer to finish off all the hard work done.
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| Quote: 1315trinity "Yeah I assume you're referring to Ronnie Fell who was the backer, but we also had Stuart Hadfield a very shrewd businessman as chairman.
You're right though, there was some success after Fell's death but it was diminishing, until it disappeared altogether.
There was then the Wembley team of 79, which never hit the heights of the 1960's team, and seemed to have been built solely to get us to Wembley because, after that final it was dismantled faster then any other team I've known!
We do need that backer to finish off all the hard work done.'"
Yes. We were no different back then to the likes of modern day teams like Wigan and Saints in so much as we had success built on a backer.
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| Quote: PopTart "If your only measure of success is us winning 3 challenge cups and 2 league championships then no we are never going to get a crowd.
But other teams manage it without that success.
For me, we will lift our crowd slightly with a decent mid table finish but I don't think it would go higher even with a run in playoffs till the facilities are better.
Facilities getting better will mean more people will come with success.'"
Well it's a sobering thought that since the '66/67 season we have finished in the top 4 only 3 times!! Not once since we came back up in '98, even those 2 5th place finishes seem like ages ago now, it was a shame we couldn't somehow build on those but hey ho. I want to thank MC for all he's done, I haven't agreed with everything obviously, but there was no doubting his dedication and commitment to the cause, I wish him all the best. Certainly interesting times ahead for sure.....
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "Thanks for all the hard work MC but this is the right call. New blood is needed and i hope the announcement is due to having irons in the fire.
Or maybe he's seen the IMG criteria today, thinks we are screwed and has run for the hills.'"
No way would he run for the hills .Mr Carter wiped a 2 million pound det out when he took over the club, .and as been keeping us alive for the last 9 years .When he goes there will be a stadium in stead of a ground not fit for purpose .The guy as been shafted by Wakfield Council ,a Cowboy building firm, a ex Chairman and as still got us a stadium .Know he would have been able to do a job in the champions ,if as it is looking we end there .All the best Mr Carter in retirement ,you will be remembered as a Chairman who gave is all to the club ,and played fair .Not a lot of Chairmen in S L can say that .A big loss and thanks for everything
M
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| He leaves the club in much better shape that it was originally in.
Thank you MC. Let’s hope we continue to run a tight ship financially even after he has stepped away.
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| Our gratitude to MC for his tenacity and acumen and pure energy (as well as cash injection of course) should he undoubted.
He has demonstrated to all that he is without doubt a fine company administrator. Second to none.
Whilst enormously grateful I too think his exit will pave the way for new blood and ideas, and quite possibly cash.
Some may disagree, but MC is a polarising character who may just have scared some backers away with his bedside manner let’s say.
His exit may now allow something different to happen. JM is still at the helm to provide that steadying influence, so best of luck to the board in finding MC’s replacement.
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| Quote: BackSeatCoach "Our gratitude to MC for his tenacity and acumen and pure energy (as well as cash injection of course) should he undoubted.
He has demonstrated to all that he is without doubt a fine company administrator. Second to none.
Whilst enormously grateful I too think his exit will pave the way for new blood and ideas, and quite possibly cash.
Some may disagree, but MC is a polarising character who may just have scared some backers away with his bedside manner let’s say.
His exit may now allow something different to happen. JM is still at the helm to provide that steadying influence, so best of luck to the board in finding MC’s replacement.'"
I get your point and I've heard that from a lot of people, though I can't say I've ever experienced it, but then I am very thick skinned.
However I don't think it was always so - up until the Chris Chester leaving era he was very open and approachable, after that less so, more guarded and less involved or so it seemed from a fans perspective. No point getting too deep but what happened to CC got to him imo and rightly so because it got really nasty. I don't know the full story but if it got to him that much, and why wouldn't it, then as you say it's possibly the right decision for us all. If your hearts no longer in it and all that.
Wouldn't surprise me that after a good long break he didn't reappear in some for, once inside you Trinity is a hard thing to let go.
Anyway, my last word on the subject, tomorrow is a new day.
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| Quote: PopTart "If your only measure of success is us winning 3 challenge cups and 2 league championships then no we are never going to get a crowd.
But other teams manage it without that success.
For me, we will lift our crowd slightly with a decent mid table finish but I don't think it would go higher even with a run in playoffs till the facilities are better.
Facilities getting better will mean more people will come with success.'"
New people and casual fans want to follow a team who are at least in with a shout of competing in the play-offs or getting to Wembley. It's become a yearly certainty reading about us being the relegation favourites in pre-season predictions. Nobody is going to read that and say, "I can't wait to give watching Wakey a go this season. I might even convince a few more to come along".
The improvement in facilities may increase footfall, it may not. What will really increase footfall is consistent, solid home performances, following up good away wins with home wins, and a string of seasons when we're not trying to survive in the last few games. It's telling that even mid-table mediocrity looks appealing right now.
Michael Carter was in a predicament. He wanted to balance the books but this left no money for investment in the team. The only way he could invest in the team was by getting attendances up. The only way to get attendances up was by investing in the team. And round and round in "relegation favourites" circles we go.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "New people and casual fans want to follow a team who are at least in with a shout of competing in the play-offs or getting to Wembley. It's become a yearly certainty reading about us being the relegation favourites in pre-season predictions. Nobody is going to read that and say, "I can't wait to give watching Wakey a go this season. I might even convince a few more to come along".
The improvement in facilities may increase footfall, it may not. What will really increase footfall is consistent, solid home performances, following up good away wins with home wins, and a string of seasons when we're not trying to survive in the last few games. It's telling that even mid-table mediocrity looks appealing right now.
Michael Carter was in a predicament. He wanted to balance the books but this left no money for investment in the team. The only way he could invest in the team was by getting attendances up. The only way to get attendances up was by investing in the team. And round and round in "relegation favourites" circles we go.'"
I think that sums us up perfectly. We attracted some good players under Kear/Chester, Kear left and then one by one, so did the players.
I think fans got fed up of hearing the same very season........we need more through the gates. You will not get more through the gates with a budget team.
At some point you have to take a risk......and as far as I'm aware........that never came.
Good luck to MC however. Thankless task and his health will be better for it away from the club.
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| Huge, huge thanks MC, without you, there may not have been a Wakefield Trinity and certainly not a Wakefield Trinity in SL.
Every fan wants their club to spend, spend, spend and to be successful and MC has copped a fair bit of stick over the years for "not doing more".
However, what he has done for the club has been superb.
From total basket case, in an old shabby ground, to one of the best run clubs in SL and all on a relative shoe string and finally, a "new" stadium to enjoy.
Things look way, way better than they did 10 years ago. Thank you !
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| Quote: King Street Cat "New people and casual fans want to follow a team who are at least in with a shout of competing in the play-offs or getting to Wembley. It's become a yearly certainty reading about us being the relegation favourites in pre-season predictions. Nobody is going to read that and say, "I can't wait to give watching Wakey a go this season. I might even convince a few more to come along".
The improvement in facilities may increase footfall, it may not. What will really increase footfall is consistent, solid home performances, following up good away wins with home wins, and a string of seasons when we're not trying to survive in the last few games. It's telling that even mid-table mediocrity looks appealing right now.
Michael Carter was in a predicament. He wanted to balance the books but this left no money for investment in the team. The only way he could invest in the team was by getting attendances up. The only way to get attendances up was by investing in the team. And round and round in "relegation favourites" circles we go.'"
Classic catch 22.
The issue, as always is, how do you speculate without the "spare" cash to "gamble" on success ?
Like you, I would love to see more promotion of the club but, equally, when a certain Mr Glover spent big and increased attendances, things ended very, very badly.
Euromillions anyone ?
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