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| Quote: Pat Bateman "Will the North stand be spruced up for the start of next year.'"
I believe it will be ready to go from the first game.
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| Quote: vastman "Basically the tread depth is correct, it's just the height thats wrong. So if you rebuilt it as formatted at present you'll achieve far superior viewing angles but no significant increase in capacity. I have the basic planning concept in my possession, and if you want, as it's you, I can send you them via e-mail. These are the concepts not actual plans, as they belong to the club.
I think we gain maybe an extra 100 or so, where as in the North stand it's nearly 1,500 - it's mathematics, nothing more.
As for changing the format and rebuilding a full length stand, then yes that would be possible, and would increase the capacity by as much as 500. However due to how restricted the space is that's about it. That extra 500 would cost you 2-3 million in todays prices, that would take some getting back, we'd need to play Cas every week. Most of the time it would be empty. Remember we have not gone anywhere near 7,600 in years.
Hope that helps.'"
It does help. Thank you.
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| Quote: vastman "I believe it will be ready to go from the first game.'"
Nice one. It’ll definitely do a job, like you say it’s a cost effective measure to also allow for more income through potential sponsorship. Be good to see it in person. With the new pitch, development of the east underway and tarting up of the North stand, that will do for me. I must just be easily pleased
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| Quote: vastman "This is so wrong, it's like you've never looked at the plans or the debate on here.
What are you missing on this, I'm sorry to sound condescending but its frustrating.
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What an over reaction!
Not every comment made by someone is a criticism, some are just observations and musing for the sake of discussion
I started by saying it was a general comment, NOT a question for you to ask the board, I certainly don’t want you speaking for me thanks.
I also said, I recognise the financial constraints, which I now see is £10 million not £12million to suit your argument
There’s nothing in my post that suggests we don’t do the North Stand so why you’ve ranted about that is a mystery
We don’t fill the West Stand, capacity raise or not, the reason being many potential away fans won’t travel to stand in it. The extra revenue from it would come from getting away fans to come and actually reaching capacity. Lastly I don’t believe for one second that there is no way at all to raise the capacity and yes I fully understand the size constraints, the residents objections to raising the height etc
It’s not a priority, yet the whole development has had raising revenue at the foundation of its plan, I’m merely pointing out that there’s a revenue stream argument for improving the West Stand. That argument was there 18 months ago as well so while I know it was never in the plans it possibly could maybe even should have been
I’m with others on here with regards YOU being a self appointed mouthpiece for all fans, you don’t speak for me and I wasn’t asking a question for you to adjudge it’s merit as being pointless or not.
You don’t need to explain better, just accept that not everyone is having a go at the club and read the comments better before firing off!
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| Quote: Pat Bateman "Nice one. It’ll definitely do a job, like you say it’s a cost effective measure to also allow for more income through potential sponsorship. Be good to see it in person. With the new pitch, development of the east underway and tarting up of the North stand, that will do for me. I must just be easily pleased
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| Quote: Pat Bateman "Headingley away end is no better and offers no cover, similar to Cas, yet I’d go there in a heart beat no matter what the weather as it’s us our close rivals. Obviously the west Terrace needs upgrading, but I think the main thing is updating the facilities of our own support before concentrating on away fans. The one thing that sticks out what Headingley do better in the away end is the easier access to food and drink at the side.'"
Sorry PB but whilst I hate to admit it, Headingley and Cas away terracing offers far better environment and sight lines than Wakefield and they’re considerably cleaner and more accessible
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| Thanks for the information and insight Vasty.
No qualms with the club on the development of Belle Vue.
Personally, I was never really in favour of Newmarket, and was asking for years, why can’t the old girl just be redeveloped.
The other week, I did feel a bit miffed about it being scaled back, but I do get it, and the fact that the increase in cost of materials.
If anything, I would like to see further development to the west and south. I know we say that we’re not bothered about away fans, but we’ve been away fans in a poor area of a stadium. I’ve been in that Western terrace, albeit about 15-20 years ago, and is poor, viewing wise, I think.
The Benidorm flats have been useful for us, but only really looks a temporary fix. It did when they went up, and still do now, I feel.
I don’t know the answers or solutions to this, but I know it would be further costs.
However, Rome wasn’t built in a day
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| To be honest, we'd probably be marketed better if we gave the Sky commentators a better place to sit.
Flats have to stay until we have millions spare to build something others standard of East Stand.
I'm in there a lot. Earns money and is a good view.
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| Quote: The Avenger "Sorry PB but whilst I hate to admit it, Headingley and Cas away terracing offers far better environment and sight lines than Wakefield and they’re considerably cleaner and more accessible'"
I totally agree about the viewing platform, but the point I was making was obviously no cover. No doubt it needs upgrading, but obviously don’t think it will be anytime soon.
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| Quote: PopTart "To be honest, we'd probably be marketed better if we gave the Sky commentators a better place to sit.
Flats have to stay until we have millions spare to build something others standard of East Stand.
I'm in there a lot. Earns money and is a good view.'"
Hopefully it will earn more money once the New East stand is fully functional, I believe the intention is to rent some of the current hospitality boxes as commercial/office spaces. All depends on how the Economy outlook develops.
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| Quote: The Avenger "What an over reaction!
Not every comment made by someone is a criticism, some are just observations and musing for the sake of discussion
I started by saying it was a general comment, NOT a question for you to ask the board, I certainly don’t want you speaking for me thanks.
I also said, I recognise the financial constraints, which I now see is £10 million not £12million to suit your argument
There’s nothing in my post that suggests we don’t do the North Stand so why you’ve ranted about that is a mystery
We don’t fill the West Stand, capacity raise or not, the reason being many potential away fans won’t travel to stand in it. The extra revenue from it would come from getting away fans to come and actually reaching capacity. Lastly I don’t believe for one second that there is no way at all to raise the capacity and yes I fully understand the size constraints, the residents objections to raising the height etc
It’s not a priority, yet the whole development has had raising revenue at the foundation of its plan, I’m merely pointing out that there’s a revenue stream argument for improving the West Stand. That argument was there 18 months ago as well so while I know it was never in the plans it possibly could maybe even should have been
I’m with others on here with regards YOU being a self appointed mouthpiece for all fans, you don’t speak for me and I wasn’t asking a question for you to adjudge it’s merit as being pointless or not.
You don’t need to explain better, just accept that not everyone is having a go at the club and read the comments better before firing off!'"
No it’s not an over reaction.
There is already a thread 80 pages long regarding the development.
This thread is purely about the development as it is and what I’ve found out and what I’ll ask JM about.
The west and south parts of the ground are irrelevant because they are not part of this development. Rightly so imo but if you don’t agree there is already a thread for that.
On this occasion this thread is intended purely to deal with actual issues regarding the current development. I have my own opinions on the stadium as a whole and what we are doing now but it’s the opinions of those in charge I’m dealing with.
Please let’s get what we have sorted as best we can and face the next hurdle when we’ve jumped this one. Let’s not make this another club bashing thread.
Thanks
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| Quote: The Avenger "Sorry PB but whilst I hate to admit it, Headingley and Cas away terracing offers far better environment and sight lines than Wakefield and they’re considerably cleaner and more accessible'"
Yes they do but we can’t fix that now.
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| Quote: vastman "No it’s not an over reaction.
There is already a thread 80 pages long regarding the development.
This thread is purely about the development as it is and what I’ve found out and what I’ll ask JM about.
The west and south parts of the ground are irrelevant because they are not part of this development. Rightly so imo but if you don’t agree there is already a thread for that.
On this occasion this thread is intended purely to deal with actual issues regarding the current development. I have my own opinions on the stadium as a whole and what we are doing now but it’s the opinions of those in charge I’m dealing with.
Please let’s get what we have sorted as best we can and face the next hurdle when we’ve jumped this one. Let’s not make this another club bashing thread.
Thanks'"
OH dear,
Another rant, you sound like Nellie Olsen
The title of the thread is ‘Stadium Development Part 2
Nothing about exclusively talking about only the things you want to talk about
Maybe you should start your own forum and only allow your own opinions on it
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| Quote: PopTart "To be honest, we'd probably be marketed better if we gave the Sky commentators a better place to sit.
Flats have to stay until we have millions spare to build something others standard of East Stand.
I'm in there a lot. Earns money and is a good view.'"
I must be getting soft because i keep agreeing with you. Yes I dont see a problem with the flats. The viewing is probably the best in the ground and the facilities are good. You are also right about sky and the media. A good solution would be to dedicate a couple of boxes to be converted to a sky studio and give them some nice facilities. Those boxes on the West side are terrible and I am suprised they are not being bull dozed while we have the machinery on site. No wonder putting the media in that monstrosity gets us bad press
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| Quote: Prince Buster "I must be getting soft because i keep agreeing with you. Yes I dont see a problem with the flats. The viewing is probably the best in the ground and the facilities are good. You are also right about sky and the media. A good solution would be to dedicate a couple of boxes to be converted to a sky studio and give them some nice facilities. Those boxes on the West side are terrible and I am suprised they are not being bull dozed while we have the machinery on site. No wonder putting the media in that monstrosity gets us bad press'"
Lol. That's worrying. A good stiff drink should put things back to normal
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