So you genuinely think there is no risk of the boy doing well and putting himself in the shop window?

You genuinely think there is no risk that this happens and he goes on to be a great asset for Leeds.

All I've done is express my opinion and reasons why we might be a little nervous.

I know it's common practice for you to essentially throw your weight around and be the big man on campus. But you should really learn to accept people have different opinions to you. This forum might get a bit more traffic if you did.

Sorry but the simple fact is that we haven’t signed Aydin up for next year. Whether we have offered something and there’s a gap in the club and players expectations or we haven’t offered we don’t know.

The club has made a decision and they may want to see Aydin in action in SL but let Leeds take the risk on his inexperience with their current predicament.

You simply cannot predict the future! He may do well or he may not do well. But I can sure fire guarantee that we shouldn’t be offering out contracts ‘just because’ a player could play well.

It is a 2 week loan deal. Aydin hasn’t broke any pots for us when given the opportunity albeit been fairly solid. The simple fact is that Aydin can be approached by any club in the UK to discuss 2023 and beyond as he is as it stands out of contract. Maybe the club are simply not sure on Aydin yet much like the fans seem to be split on whether he’s actually good enough.

It's laughable that anyone should think that Leeds would have no knowledge of Aydin and his ability until today.

There are no negatives for Wakefield, Leeds or Aydin in this loan deal. There might be one for Toulouse.

So there is no negative for Wakefield if Aydin impresses coaching staff and other players at Leeds during his loan and it convinces Leeds to sign him next year? That will be so insignificant to the club and there is no risk this will happen at all?

Wakefield have chosen not to either give him a deal or meet his demands. What part of that don’t you understand?

He could play well for Leeds but equally he could not. If we see some value in his performances for Leeds we can offer him something if we chose. It allows us to look at him at no risk to the club.

There is always risk to every decision in sport. We could sign him up and he could end up churning out poor performances or possibly good.

I really fail to see your point on Aydin. Any player going out on loan could impress no matter their contract status.

The risk is that we might be letting a team interested in signing the lad have essentially what will be a free hit. If he likes Leeds and Leeds like him it's game over.

On the other hand if he plays well for us over the next 2 weeks.
Then you could just as easily offer him a contract for next year so could any other club not just Leeds.
I don`t think 2 good games would guarantee a contract at Leeds as I would imagine we have had some feedback on his past performances hence the loan signing.

Have trinity not had the opportunity to sign him or offer him a deal for 2023 throughout all of 2022? They would have secured him should they wish.

There are positives to this for all sides :

1. Trinity save on wages.
2. Wakefield Trinity get to see how Aydin can plays without the risk of playing a player they’re not sure on.
3. Wakefield trinity are not standing in the way of a young players opportunity to try and secure a contract.
4. Leeds play Toulouse next so even if it slightly improved Leeds chances of a win then this benefits Trinity.

I rate Aydin, good Wakey lad from our system. Guys like him can be foundation of the team for future years. If the club decide not to offer him another contract, then lets see who they bring in.
Same applies to Batch, think the club have made the wrong call letting him go.
Knowing the clubs track record i dont hold much hope that either will be replaced with someone better

Have we let Batchelor go (not offered him a contract) or has he chosen to leave (offered a contract but felt his future lay better elsewhere)?

I'm saying that big clubs such as Leeds Rhinos, Wigan Warriors and Saints will be fully aware of the potential of many young players across the leagues including our guys Aydin, Eseh, Shaw and even the likes of Leon Ruan who we released. Two games for Aydin off their bench and a few training sessions is hardly likely to have a major implication.
Leeds taking two points off Toulouse this weekend could go a long way in preventing us losing a few more players than just Yusef.

If we wanted to retain him that badly we would have done it before he was free to talk to any other club. The fact that we haven’t speaks volumes in itself. I don’t get why you keep going on about this ‘risky’ business. It’s not as if we are talking about a lad who’s been or is an integral part of the match day squad. Any club is free to sign him or talk to him so the risk is no greater than that.

The club obviously haven’t given him the opportunity because they think we have better options or because he’s not ready or good enough either now or yet. We still presently do have at least 4 better options ahead of him therefor can afford a short term loan. That’s all it is.

This has nothing to do with another player. We are discussing Aydin.

You keep throwing ‘what ifs’ about. The simple fact is that he hasn’t pulled up any trees or managed to force his way into a regular spot. Why I don’t know but that is fact. You obviously have a high opinion of Aydin but the club here have nothing to answer for.

It’s a good move for all parties. Let’s just agree to disagree as our opinions differ and i can accept that.

So the loan is completely insignificant to Leeds and they have already decided that they will / won't be offering him a contract?

How do you know we haven't offered him a contract are you 100% certain that, that is the case? Because if not this sounds like a "what if" to me.

My point has never been that he's better than this player or that. My point is that this presents Leeds with an opportunity to look at an up and coming player currently on our books that me may / may not retain. Irrespective of his contract situation with us - the loan could potentially sway Leeds to offer him a contract. So there is an element of risk with the loan deal in my opinion.