FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Tuesday Q&A with JM |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 2773 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2019 | 6 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: vastman "Well of course we've been short-changed but that happened ten years ago, time to move on.
To answer your question, the answer is NO, that will be it I'd have thought.
However, it's far easier to get people interested in investing in a half-done stadium than the pile rubble we currently have.
Partial victory snatched from the jaws of defeat is how I see it.'"
Agreed Vasty, this is one of those occasions when half a loaf is better than none. Let’s not forget, we also now own the Stadium and surrounding land, something that was lost to us when dear Old Ted did that secret deal with the Bank of Ireland. OK, I know we have to repay WMCD, for the loan to buy the ground, but it’s now ours to lose.
It’s still early days re the redevelopment, and after years of Shenanigans by various parties, it feels like a time I remember late 1950s when Trinity were becoming a force in RL, and I know the current economic climate is uncertain for a lot of clubs,, but I believe we can become a highly competitive club again with MC and JM in charge.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7423 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: dboy "I think a slight correction is that, it's not a period for the SOS to approve, it's a period in which the SOS can "call it in".'"
Doesn’t the SOS only call developments in if there are a number of complaints?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3011 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2022 | Sep 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: JINJER "Doesn’t the SOS only call developments in if there are a number of complaints?'"
Wasn't the plot for the stadium actual real greenbelt? Could this still be an issue?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 36107 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: coco the fullback "Wasn't the plot for the stadium actual real greenbelt? Could this still be an issue?'"
Not sure, but I would have thought it was all re-designated when the Icebox was built.
The planning permission for plot 8 is definitely more contentious than for BV but I can't see many complaints now as the horse bolted years ago.
But who knows, there have been so many twists so I wouldn't bet my house on it, I'd bet yours though
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 2773 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2019 | 6 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: vastman "Not sure, but I would have thought it was all re-designated when the Icebox was built.
The planning permission for plot 8 is definitely more contentious than for BV but I can't see many complaints now as the horse bolted years ago.
But who knows, there have been so many twists so I wouldn't bet my house on it, I'd bet yours though
Had a quick look at the developers documents regarding the enabling funding. The argument appears to be, The Plot 8 site still has the Secretary of State planning agreement for the Stadium. on that site.The developers agree the funding for BV as compensation (rather than a bribe) for them to change the Planning permission to Warehouses, I’m no expert, but perhaps it requires a S o S to agree to change the planning permission.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 36107 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Had a quick look at the developers documents regarding the enabling funding. The argument appears to be, The Plot 8 site still has the Secretary of State planning agreement for the Stadium. on that site.The developers agree the funding for BV as compensation (rather than a bribe) for them to change the Planning permission to Warehouses, I’m no expert, but perhaps it requires a S o S to agree to change the planning permission.'"
Sounds likely, we've obviously got YC on a hook and that may well be it. We shall see soon enough I suppose.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 238 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2017 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| JM did say there will be a "grace period" during which time the SOS can call in the proposal if he wishes. Probably highly unlikely he would want to get anywhere near this particular can of worms so probably full speed ahead in February.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7423 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: vastman "Sounds likely, we've obviously got YC on a hook and that may well be it. We shall see soon enough I suppose.'"
But we’ve seen in the past how these s can wriggle.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 36107 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: JINJER "But we’ve seen in the past how these s can wriggle.
Indeed.
However, JM and MC are not fools, it's highly unlikely IMHO they would state publicly that the funding was in place if it wasn't. I'm not sure how it works, I doubt it's as simple as passing a cheque over but it must be pretty secure. Even Ted never went as far as to be this certain.
Obviously, this is all on the assumption that Plot 8 and BV gets planning consent. If it doesn't that doesn't necessarily indicate a scam, just an unsound plan and back to the drawing board.
Squeaky bum time.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1444 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2020 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Just read the full interview with John Minnard and he speaks very professionally and passionately about the club. I feel more optimistic than ever that the ground improvement will now happen.
I’ve renewed my membership, spent in the shop and for those who feel hard done by that the club have obviously emailed the interview to all members I am about to subscribe to trinity tv!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1559 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2014 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Just going back to Newmarket did the stadium come with a training pitch etc ?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 1470 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: cosmicat "Just going back to Newmarket did the stadium come with a training pitch etc ?'"
I think it did with a sheltered stand
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7423 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I’ve not had chance to watch the JM Q&A yet, what exactly does “finance in place for the development mean, does that cover the new East stand, North stand, west stand, Rollin shack, Benidorm flats and the training pitches outside of the perimeter of the ground?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1444 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2020 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: JINJER "I’ve not had chance to watch the JM Q&A yet, what exactly does “finance in place for the development mean, does that cover the new East stand, North stand, west stand, Rollin shack, Benidorm flats and the training pitches outside of the perimeter of the ground?'"
As I understand it, the finance is in place for the East stand and the north stand re-surfacing and I believe the new pitch.
It doesn't include the west terrace, which JM said they had plans for but that would be in the future.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 36107 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: JINJER "I’ve not had chance to watch the JM Q&A yet, what exactly does “finance in place for the development mean, does that cover the new East stand, North stand, west stand, Rollin shack, Benidorm flats and the training pitches outside of the perimeter of the ground?'"
Nope mate this is it, just the East and North stand, it’s been that way all along. The other two sides won’t be done anytime soon.
There is no training pitch, no idea where you got that from, the whole point of a 4G pitch is that we don’t need one. We are paying for that by the way.
This is a partial victory that gets us a partial stadium.
It’s not right or fair but it’s way more than I thought we’d manage tbh.
YC have gotten away with it to a massive degree. They are probably having to splash out 8 million when it should be closer to 40 million.
Fundamentally they have saved 32 million and that’s only because Box finally went and the club stuck at it.
Nobody including MC and JM are claiming this is anything other than a compromise but we are where we are.
We need to move on and once the East and North are sorted find other ways to develop the rest.
|
|
|
|
|
|