Happyjack I've been supporting this club so long that any bad result does not effect me any more.With in half a hour forgot about the match.But some times it just great to Wright down on here what I think about the present set up down at Bell View .Sorry if I drone on a bit\a lot .but got told a long time ago if any thing is on your mind. right it down and bin it witch I do and you will stop thinking about it .It does work .but the problem is that it only last 5 to 7 days then we play a match and the problem is there again

Your not on your own there. It must be an age thing or should we call it maturity?

Good teams are well drilled ,so even if they lose a player they find a way to win take Cas(will wash my mouth out with soap and water) what ever player they lose in a match can even be there 6 or 7 you know they are going to compete for the rest of the game .Teams that are not as well drilled in basic rugby get nowhere and that's were we are

That correct and it’s my point.

Something has gone wrong and it’s not as simple as just blaming the coach.

For two and a half seasons 2017 - 2019 we were just that. We were well drilled, resilient and able to claw out wins. Occasionally we were even unstoppable, ask Wigan and Hull.

Same coach and mostly the same players.

If this isn’t baffling enough the coach now has seven years as a SL coach under his belt. Whilst many of the players who were once so impressive should actually be reaching their peak, not sliding as many are.

It’s so frustrating, we should be so right and we are clearly so wrong at the moment.

Normally I’m not a million miles off as to the problem but like most ordinary fans who don’t claim any great insight, I just can’t fathom it.

None of the theories peddled on here by the doom merchants or the touch line internationals stand up to scrutiny imho.

There are snatches of the team of two years ago but never a full games worth, so frustrating.

Finally I’m not suggesting that the teams of 2017 - 19 were ever good enough to win a trophy, clearly not as they didn’t. However they were at least entertaining and sometimes gave the impression they might. As a fan of SL’s poorest club I’d be happy if we could just get back to that.

Maybe vasty it’s stubbornness in not changing or adapting or maybe we have gone stale and it’s a case of the same voice and same thing over and over

sport is about winning but adapting to situations and not doing the same things over and over and over, it’s about planning and also learning by your mistakes. Is it as good as seasons in the sun by Terry jacks

Well, we will continue to differ.

The title is based on said song and is nod to those two blisteringly hot summers.

Sandbrook is marginally right-wing but if anybody wants to know what real cowardly leadership is like then Harold Wilson last term is it. Read it and trust me Chester will seem like Churchill.

PS. It's over 900 pages so set a year aside

OK when are the teams out

Should be today 2 days before kick off

Been released

So...... Wow...... That thread went all over the place didn't it.
I regret I thought this was just about the cup game so didn't check the posts being added.

Please only discuss the game from now on. I'll clean up the thread. Lots of things posted that really doesn't need to be on here.

They have a strong squad out. The only one missing

Catalan
21-man squad: 1 Arthur Mourgue, 2 Tom Davies, 3 Samisoni Langi, 4 Dean Whare, 5 Fouad Yaha, 6 James Maloney, 7 Josh Drinkwater, 8 Gil Dudson, 10 Julian Bousquet, 11 Matt Whitley, 12 Mike McMeeken, 13 Benjamin Garcia, 14 Alrix Da Costa, 15 Benjamin Jullien, 16 Paul Seguier, 20 Mathieu Laguerre, 21 Corentin Le Cam, 24 Jason Baitieri, 28 Sam Kasiano, 29 Sam Tomkins, 30 Jordan Dezaria.


Trinity
21-man squad: 1 Max Jowitt, 2 Tom Johnstone, 3 Bill Tupou, 4 Reece Lyne, 5 Liam Kay, 6 Jacob Miller, 7 Mason Lino, 8 David Fifita, 10 Tinirau Arona, 11 Matty Ashurst, 12 Kelepi Tanginoa, 13 Joe Westerman, 14 Jay Pitts, 16 James Batchelor, 17 Chris Green, 18 Innes Senior, 19 Jordy Crowther, 20 Joe Arundel, 22 Adam Tangata, 23 Josh Wood, 29 Ryan Hampshire.

I know it sounds depressing but I can’t even get excited by the squad announcement anymore. I used to love it when the squad got announced and picking the 17 in my head. I just feel like we are going to play the same way whoever is in. Nice to see Jowitt back though.

Wakey has the bestest forum, till PT edits it.