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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "More people associate Jane McDonald with Wakefield than Trinity.'"



Perhaps we could sign her for a few games.

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Quote: Jose "The Club have any number of volunteers doing all sorts of jobs (i know cos i am one). Why not contact MC with your ideas and how you see them working and the cost, and how you could help implement and I'm sure they would be willing to listen?'"


He probably won't.

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Quote: Jose "The Club have any number of volunteers doing all sorts of jobs (i know cos i am one). Why not contact MC with your ideas and how you see them working and the cost, and how you could help implement and I'm sure they would be willing to listen?'"



I`m not sure I agree with that, all for filtering ideas into the club but why should it be down to a fan to come up with plans on how to implement and work out costings for the club? They are a professional organisation with professional staff dedicated to marketing the club, Communications etc like any other organisation.

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Why not address my response to your post instead on speculating what I may or may not do.
Like I have said before you are the common denominator on disagreement and falling out on the site and seem to take a strange satisfaction in trying to put people.down
You are becoming a bore and your contributions dull
And totally predictable.. Maybe you should take a close look at your contributions and either toke a rest or try to get back to your interesting and eventful threads.
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Quote: homme vaste "I`m not sure I agree with that, all for filtering ideas into the club but why should it be down to a fan to come up with plans on how to implement and work out costings for the club? They are a professional organisation with professional staff dedicated to marketing the club, Communications etc like any other organisation.'"


Because clearly some feel that its not working, but equally I still suspect that we are as cash strapped as we were in 2013 just before we nearly went bust, so whilst I agree that it would be lovely to see the Club emblazoned all over the City, I would also think to myself, that perhaps just maybe, finances dictate they cant. The mantra for the last 8 years has always been 'spend what we earn'. There has never been any suggestion of 'speculate to accumulate' . If you want that, I suggest you start trying to find different owners, because the current incumbents either don't have the money, or don't have the will to risk their money to do that, and never will, in my opinion!

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Quote: lampyboy "Why not address my response to your post instead on speculating what I may or may not do.
Like I have said before you are the common denominator on disagreement and falling out on the site and seem to take a strange satisfaction in trying to put people.down
You are becoming a bore and your contributions dull
And totally predictable.. Maybe you should take a close look at your contributions and either toke a rest or try to get back to your interesting and eventful threads.
OR WAS THAT FISHERMANFRIEND.'"


I'm the bore, priceless.

So nothing you say provokes a negative response from anybody but me? Think you should read the replies you get!

The difference between me and you is simple. I post controversial stuff and I expect some negative responses, that's how freedom of expression works and I'll stand my corner.

You post endless negative sniping comments about the players and the club and you cry foul when someone pulls you upon it. Is that how it works in your world? You express any opinion you want and nobody can answer back?

Play the game, this is a forum, you post mundane stuff you get mundane answers, you post strong opinions you get strong replies. It's not personal from me, I don't know you from Adam but you seem to be intent on making it so. You post something I agree with and I'll respond positively.

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Quote: LyndsayGill "Perhaps we could sign her for a few games.'"


I thought we had and she played for us last season......

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Quote: LyndsayGill "Perhaps we could sign her for a few games.'"


Is she Wayne's mum?

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Social media is a great tool, but for me its preaching to the converted unless you spend some effort and produce something that could go viral. The issue with that is is it's very easy to press like then forget about it after a day or so, with no real benefit to the club. Everyone in Wakefield, or at least every sports fan, should know who Tom Johnstone is, but I bet outside of Trinity fans not many do.

The point of the Wakefield AFC advert I saw was that it is effective in reaching out to people who wouldn't ordinarily look for it. It also must have been fairly affordable.

I know the mantra is only spend whatever we accumulate, but we're not going to accumulate more with that policy in order to push the club onto that next step. Unless we hit a real purple patch and have a great run with few injuries we are 5th place club at best, and that's not a slight on the club, there are just better teams with greater resources above us. Relying on success to boost crowds is a little foolhardy. There can only be at most two successful teams each season.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Social media is a great tool, but for me its preaching to the converted unless you spend some effort and produce something that could go viral. The issue with that is is it's very easy to press like then forget about it after a day or so, with no real benefit to the club. Everyone in Wakefield, or at least every sports fan, should know who Tom Johnstone is, but I bet outside of Trinity fans not many do.

The point of the Wakefield AFC advert I saw was that it is effective in reaching out to people who wouldn't ordinarily look for it. It also must have been fairly affordable.

I know the mantra is only spend whatever we accumulate, but we're not going to accumulate more with that policy in order to push the club onto that next step. Unless we hit a real purple patch and have a great run with few injuries we are 5th place club at best, and that's not a slight on the club, there are just better teams with greater resources above us. Relying on success to boost crowds is a little foolhardy. There can only be at most two successful teams each season.'"


I wonder how effective it is, it looks good I grant you but would it draw in a single extra paying fan?

Remember Wakefield AFC is effectively an amateur club, whatever cash they raise doesn't go on wages as far as I can tell. Thet are looking for people to participate we are looking for paying punters, two very different agendas.

I'm not saying your wrong but I rarely see any RL club doing that kind of thing these days let alone us.

Tell you what though, if you can find out how much it cost I'll contribute £50 straight away and I'm not joking. This sounds like a project fans can contribute to, ie the likes of Luppy and Scarlet for a start. Again I'm not having a dig, I just don't see why we can't do it, I'm sure the club has the people to knock up an ad?

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5 or 6 seasons ago Cas were only getting about 2-3000 people going to the games since they changed coach, Brought Powell in & started winning & competing for Cups & top of the table people came back in droves. You aint going to bring new fans in to watch bottom of the table stuff. It's going to be a hard slog No matter how hard we try putting posters up etc There's nothing to get excited about Sad but true. Success brings in Fans

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Social media is a great tool, but for me its preaching to the converted unless you spend some effort and produce something that could go viral. The issue with that is is it's very easy to press like then forget about it after a day or so, with no real benefit to the club. Everyone in Wakefield, or at least every sports fan, should know who Tom Johnstone is, but I bet outside of Trinity fans not many do.

The point of the Wakefield AFC advert I saw was that it is effective in reaching out to people who wouldn't ordinarily look for it. It also must have been fairly affordable.

I know the mantra is only spend whatever we accumulate, but we're not going to accumulate more with that policy in order to push the club onto that next step. Unless we hit a real purple patch and have a great run with few injuries we are 5th place club at best, and that's not a slight on the club, there are just better teams with greater resources above us. Relying on success to boost crowds is a little foolhardy. There can only be at most two successful teams each season.'"


I think we are agreeing with each other from different angles. If that's what you want, look for new owners, because thats not their policy.

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Quote: Little willy "5 or 6 seasons ago Cas were only getting about 2-3000 people going to the games since they changed coach, Brought Powell in & started winning & competing for Cups & top of the table people came back in droves. You aint going to bring new fans in to watch bottom of the table stuff. It's going to be a hard slog No matter how hard we try putting posters up etc There's nothing to get excited about Sad but true. Success brings in Fans'"


Agree with most of your post but they have never had 2-3000 in SL.

Their lowest average over the last 10 years was 6288 in 2013 and their highest was 8779 in 2017.

For comparison, our lowest was 4351 in 2014 and highest 8172 in 2012 - mind you the higher figure was under the Glover regime and there seemed to be some "double counting" going on at certain times while he was in charge.

However, our most recent average was 5368 in 2019 so, there seems to be plenty of scope for increasing attendances.
Most of the die hard fans are used to the state of the ground but, there is no doubt that modern facilities would encourage more people to attend and IF this could be coupled with some success on the field, numbers would grow significantly.
A regular top 4/5/6 finish would put another 1500 or more fans on the gate.

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Quote: Jose "I think we are agreeing with each other from different angles. If that's what you want, look for new owners, because thats not their policy.'"

I'm not interested in new owners, unless they are a Trinity fan and are a multi-billionaire, I accept what we are and what we can afford, I am comparing what a basically amateur club has done to a professional one though.

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Quote: vastman "I wonder how effective it is, it looks good I grant you but would it draw in a single extra paying fan?

Remember Wakefield AFC is effectively an amateur club, whatever cash they raise doesn't go on wages as far as I can tell. Thet are looking for people to participate we are looking for paying punters, two very different agendas.

I'm not saying your wrong but I rarely see any RL club doing that kind of thing these days let alone us.

Tell you what though, if you can find out how much it cost I'll contribute £50 straight away and I'm not joking. This sounds like a project fans can contribute to, ie the likes of Luppy and Scarlet for a start. Again I'm not having a dig, I just don't see why we can't do it, I'm sure the club has the people to knock up an ad?'"

Past history tells me you wont get much out of fans, but it could be something to team up with one of the sponsors. A dual advert of sorts.

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