Then if that is the case (and that's a big if) they should move on rather than take the money and not do the job.

In terms of pay cuts, it was that or the club couldn't survive. If any players thought that wasn't fair, their grievance isn't really with the club. The club couldn't possibly have prepared for the current situation.
They are effectively playing to keep their employer in business so they have jobs next year.

So lets look at the first try shall we..

We have Aidan Sezer supplying the pass to Chris McQueen...two players with collectively 20 years experience and over 300 games in the NRL...McQueen hit a great line off a nicely timed pass and ran straight through a teenager making only his second career start...how very big of you to call it out as woeful defence....

As I said, I don't blame Carter for taking care of the club finances and using pay cuts and deferrals as a way to do that, but I do think it is fair to question the way he went about it.

In situations such as this you have to bring people with you and show a degree of empathy. When you look at some of Carter's comments in the press and some of his social media posts, I think he lacks that.. The sinister "we'll remember those who objected" was a needless, stupid remark that, to me, showed that he didn't have that empathy. Suggesting to your employees that "their insubordination will be punished" is not how you win people to your cause. Maybe in the days of the dark, setanic mills, but not today.

The comments about Kershaw and the "I wish I was on what he was on at 21" comment was also an ill-judged remark that lacked empathy, as well as relevance.

I've worked for people who have displayed the sorts of behaviours and attitudes that Carter displays. These people are uniformally good at one thing and that is driving good people out of a business. Carter might think that he can get away with it because his rivals aren't recruiting, but he can't expect his approach to be without consequence.

I always feel like people are just reacting to bad results when they moan about effort but clearly sometimes you can see things on the field that don't look right.

I still say it is organisation and execution rather than fitness or tactics.

When you look at the stats we had players putting in a mountain of work. More than they should have to which is bound to affect the energy available when they need it later in the game.

If players miss tackles it looks like they are not trying hard enough. When they make 48 and then miss one, I don't think that it the case.
Westerman - made 36 missed 1 97.2% - 8 carries for 57 metres 2 offloads
Pitts - made 45 missed 2 95.7% - 7 carries for 48
Tanginoa - made 26 missed 4 86% - 14 carries for 97 metres
Kopczak - made 33 missed 0 100% 10 carries for 82 metres
Battye made 48 missed 4 92.3% - 21 for 144 metres
Crowther - made 48 missed 1 97.9% - 14 carries for 99 metres
K Wood - made 31 missed 1 96.8% - 2 carries for 41 metres
J Woods - made 31 missed 1 96.8% - 5 carries for 24 metres
Navarette - made 29 missed 3 90.6% - 13 carries for 115 metres

There are a couple of things to look at but there is no lack of effort there, in fact you'd say Crowther, Kopczak and Battye were outstanding in both defence and attack. Pitts in defence and Navarette in attack have good stats too.

However, all that is wasted if when we get to the sixth tackle we just hand the ball over cheaply. Or when the ball goes wide we leave a big hole.
Gigot and Bailey have awful stats in defence. Bailey missed 9 tackles in total but did make another 20. He was stood next to Gigot who missed 5 and made 14. For me Gigot was the one Chester was talking about waving players through. Left Bailey vulnerable until they were moved around.
If Miller isn't available I'd still progress with Bailey and to be honest when he's back I think I'd play Miller at 7 to see how he and Bailey work together.

I still say our 1,6,7 and 9s are if not the issue, they are the fix that isn't working.
Doesn't matter what Chester asks them to do, if they are not finishing the set well or not organising the team properly, then the effort of the others are wasted.

If you put any other teams spine in our team, apart from maybe Hull KR and Salford, our backline would rain in tries. Tupou and Lyne make great yards when they receive a good pass, or even an average pass but so often they are simply taking the ball up from the back. BJB looks like he could get his form back too with 20 carries for 164 metres. (missed 3 tackles

The lacking empathy comment I agree with completely. For all his skills, social media and emotional intelligence aren't high on his list.

It’s not tiddlywinks or chess it was woeful defence I don’t care who he is or how old he is do your damn job and get off the line and by the way I mentioned no names,

Come on mate, he mentioned no names - It was woeful defence. Regardless of who the players were, there is probably a point that he should not have been isolated so easily, again comes back to the structure of our defence.

I'm not great at stats, but from my memory of the stats that Sky throw up, I make that 31 missed tackles and that sounds like an awful lot.

I know you love your stats PT but they don’t tell you the whole story

All the stats are from players who’s first responsibility is the middle channel, with the exception of Pitts.
Now far be it from me to decry the hard work done in the middle channel but with all due respect the largest number of tackles are always made in that channel and they’re often the most direct collisions and not a lot of evasion is present.

What those stats don’t tell you is how static were those players when it came to mapping out from the play the ball toward the edges as the attacks went wider. Maybe they did this or maybe not, experience of the last couple of hundred games would suggest they didn’t do this enough or with any consistency.

Only a thorough analysis of the defensive misses will tell you where the genesis of a missed tackle truly formed and who was ALSO at fault for it.

I agree some of those comments probably shouldn't have been made...neither should Chester's about players....these guys are under huge pressure though, something us as fans don't have on our shoulders...

Some criticism may be fair on both, but a lot is way over the top for me for two guys who are doing everything in their powers to make a success of things in very trying times and are just getting abuse all over the place....it's the unfortunate world we live in now with social media etc..

The supporters of this club have been extremely fair with carter and extremely fair with Chester, they have put money in let the club keep their season ticket money and stayed very loyal. Now it’s professional sport and you know it’s results based and 5 from 28 is not acceptable. We’ve been in decline for 18 months to 2 years and I don’t blame carter he’s giving Chester what he’s asking for but he’s not seeing what we need. We are getting older/ slower we can’t make ground we can’t make breaks and we’ve no pace in the pack. As any player improved in the last 2 years I can’t think of one. You see every team know if you can contain our pack we offer nothing than a pass to the left or a pass to the right it’s easy. I have to say the way we are playing at the moment and team selection it looks like the coach doesn’t know what he’s doing.

do you ever feel like when we are on our line or say in our 20 that we are going to defend it, I don’t our line defence as been shocking for 10 years or more. It’s all down to urgency to switch on and work hard and if you can’t your not fit enough

Static I suggest you watch the game again, so the middle men drift out left and right every attack to cover woeful outside defence. They put agile players out there, you know the ones with a bit of pace, to cover that and it’s one of our Achilles heels at the moment.

A point of note for those of us who love their stats is that since the restart and the introduction of the new rules the tackle and meter counts have increased substantially across the board. What was a good set of stats in February now might not be as impressive as it was previously.

Never thought of that you couldn’t write it