Is it the act of taking the knee that offends you or the reason. If it was for white or blue lives matters would you be similarly offended.

But that wouldn't happen, because if there was a White lives matter movement. it would be shut down immediately and branded as racist, by almost everybody.

I applauded when I saw them stood linking arms, well done to the group

I agree.

I think black lives Matter but don't agree with many of the methods of the group with the same name.
I agree we should make Britain the best it can be but I don't agree how Tommy Robinson wants to do it.
Neither are representative. They are extreme minorities who have used a popular opinion to market their own.

I don't think there should be a club directive on this issue one way or the other. Each individual player should carry out the action that he believes to be the correct one. Personally, I think that initially there was a bit of a "Kings New Clothes" syndrome regarding "the Kneel" and football, rugby players and even police officers thought it was something that had to be done to be seen to conform. I'm not particularly a fan of it myself.

Because what other motivation would there be for a white lives matter movement other than racial.

Brilliant, so racism is a one way issue, people like you are unreal.

Racism is racism regardless of colour, elements of the BLM movement are totally racist.

Currently in South Africa white farmers are being murdered in cold blood with the tacos support of a racist black government by blacks stealing their land. Land they have run for generations, land that the indigenous population wasn’t interested in. These whites have lived there since the 1700’s, they have as much right to be there as anyone.

So if these whites started a white life’s matter group they wold be racist would they?

For once in your life just think before you trot out your glib soundbite rubbish. You’re so indoctrinated it’s frightening.

Hell your post has actually made me truly furious it’s blatant ignorance is so sickening.

For some reason you're trying to find an organisational structure in a public outpouring of emotion and activism. I'm not fussed too much either way about kneeling or not, as long as there is freedom of choice, but the repeated smearing of those seeking a better world as marxists or anarchists is right wing propaganda designed to undermine the central point the vast majority of people are expressing.

Johnstone said it was because one player felt he couldn't take a knee, so rather than leaving him with his backside out, they decided to make their own show of solidarity by linking arms.

It seems the significance of a team of men of all different backgrounds and creeds stood arm in arm is lost on those screeching that they should have knelt

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Not singling you out mate but just count the players on both sides. no one has 17 but every one seems to have over looked the fact that Wigan only have 12 players there.
Whose missing and why?

Taking the knee is just tokenism . It will change nothing. It allows people to think they are doing something when they are actually doing nothing concrete to stop institution racism or individual racism .It is like clapping for the NHS . We all did it but nurses are still not getting a pay rise .It makes the individual feel like they are doing something . If you want to do something the next time you are a game ( If we ever are allowed back ) and you hear someone being racist to a player confront them and get the stewards to chuck them out and the club to ban them . Then they may change their behaviour.

I do think "white lives matter" has a racist subtext, as does "all lives matter".

Black Lives Matter has a context, as it is essentially means "black lives matter too". The "too" is silent but that is its context. "All Lives Matter" has a subtext of "get back in your box". "White Lives Matter" is a reassertion of power.

But the context is fundamentally American, where the problems are much deeper and more longstanding. The treatment of Dawn Butler over the weekend shows that there is work to be done, but we should stop viewing our society through an American lens.

The British version of BLM does seem to be political opportunism, and when the identity of the British version comes out, (ie, the one that has collected a million quid in donations), they will be exposed as well-known anarchists and rabble-rousers, and probably white.

I agree with the club stance. They can unite against racism without kowtowing to public gestures that are meaningless.

please explain to me what the BLM movement actually want because it changes every day in this country, three people were interviewed on bbc radio and asked what they wanted to achieve and their answers were I don’t know, so in your wisdom enlighten me what they want and what they stand for. As for the treatment of dawn butler another jumping on the band wagon, London is a totally different planet to up here with murder, guns and knives running rife so the police have every right to do their jobs. The gangs just want a free run of things down there and think they are above the law.

I get where your point but I have managed to find a context where WLM does work which was in response to a single poster.

So you are completely wrong but in the widest context yours is at least reasonable. However this is a brilliant example of what BLM does, it polarises opinion, which in my opinion is exactly what it’s leadership wants.