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| During Wires poorest period under Tony Smith....Richie Agar took responsibility for the team...perhaps around 4 in his time...Wire never lost a game that he did.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "During Wires poorest period under Tony Smith....Richie Agar took responsibility for the team...perhaps around 4 in his time...Wire never lost a game that he did.'"
You would have done if you'd left it any longer. I suspect as a short term fire fighter Agar is quite good but long term most Trinity fans will say he isn't.
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| His record is good and he is a sought after assistant by all the top coaches.
Not everyone is a leader.
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| Quote: PopTart "His record is good and he is a sought after assistant by all the top coaches.
Not everyone is a leader.'"
Doesn't surprise me, technical ability doesn't always translate into leadership. Alex Ferguson was not the technical brains at United in their hey day it was Brian Kidd. Yet Kidd has never made a real fist as a manager whilst Ferguson doesn't write coaching manuals. So I think your right.
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| Quote: PopTart "His record is good and he is a sought after assistant by all the top coaches.
Not everyone is a leader.'"
I spent a bit of time with Agar when he was at the club, and I tend to agree - he was an absolute wonk when it came to stats, details, the nuances of the game and the value of each players individual attributes, and their cumulative effect. He was obsessed with the 'moneyball' theory, and the application of small gains. Really knowledgeable and interesting guy - but perhaps not the guy to get players fired up and ready to pi55 lightning and eat thunder on match day.
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| How would fans of his previous clubs say his teams went defensively, because that’s the area he needs to sort....he’s said as much in the preview to this weekends game. If you were rating our defence this season it’d be generous giving them 1 out of 10. If he can get the defence up to even a respectable standard and stop the constant really soft tries every game and collapses as soon as one try goes in and is quickly followed by a few more in short order then he’ll be ok for the short term whilst a longer permanent coach is lined up.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "How would fans of his previous clubs say his teams went defensively, because that’s the area he needs to sort....he’s said as much in the preview to this weekends game. If you were rating our defence this season it’d be generous giving them 1 out of 10. If he can get the defence up to even a respectable standard and stop the constant really soft tries every game and collapses as soon as one try goes in and is quickly followed by a few more in short order then he’ll be ok for the short term whilst a longer permanent coach is lined up.'"
Agar was with us for two seasons I think and in that first season we were a decent outfit. Wouldn’t say we were exceptional in defence but ok. However as time went on we got worse until the 2015 team arrived and they were dreadful. Agar was not in charge at that point and the team had been decimated by then so it’s hard to say whether it was a legacy of his coaching.
If your looking for a defence messiah I’m not convinced, Kear is more your man for that imo.
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| I am hearing they are trying to get Shane Flanging ex sharks coach who is banned from nrl
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| Yeah, Flannagn's name's been mentioned since almost the moment the news broke about Furner's sacking, along with Wane, Marshall and ex Panther coach Anthony Griffin
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| Could JD throw his cap into the ring?
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| Quote: cheshirecat57 "Could JD throw his cap into the ring?'"
Is he that desperate?
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "If your looking for a defence messiah I’m not convinced, Kear is more your man for that imo.'"
He doesn’t need to be a messiah with the defence, just anything approaching solid and reasonable will be a big step up from what we’ve had so far in that department. Sounding more and more like he won’t be in charge for too long anyway.
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| Interesting point expressed by CC in his recent interview when asked about Furner, Quote " players win matches, coaches loose matches" a reference to most people/fans views - I think ? However, certainly not mine.
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| Quote: cheshirecat57 "Could JD throw his cap into the ring?'"
I'd imagine a bit like Roosters Assistant Coach Adam O’Brien, he'll be eyeing up a big NRL gig sooner or later. Both are in the betting for the Leeds jobs but also both are very highly rated down under as assistants and if he came over and it didn't work it could derail his whole career. You never know though.
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| If he asked me for advice, which clearly he hasn't, I'd say stay as you are.
His prospects to go from where he is now to be in charge as Head Coach are much better in Oz.
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