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| Quote: homme vaste "Formerly known as Trinity18.'"
Thank you - that's all I needed to know.
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| Quote: WakeyTrin1873 "Jamie Shaul?
Zak Hardaker?
Tom Johnstone?
No, no and no.
All great players but, none of them was the finished article at 21.
Most players are still developing physically at that age and whilst they may be good or, very good at 21, cetainly not the finished article.
Even the very best players will look for continuous improvement throughout their careers and you could argue that nobody is ever "the finished article", let alone at 21.
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| Quote: WakeyTrin1873 "Because I want the club to give him a chance doesn’t mean I know he’s ready, he could yet turn out to be worse than Jowitt.'"
Isn't that a bit pointless then?
Why call for him being played when you don't know how good he is and the coaching staff don't think he's ready yet.
Just seems like you are saying it to wind people up??? !!!!
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| Quote: PopTart "Isn't that a bit pointless then?
Why call for him being played when you don't know how good he is and the coaching staff don't think he's ready yet.
Just seems like you are saying it to wind people up??? !!!!'"
Eh? What? I think you’re missing the point.
I do not think Jowitt is nor ever will be SL quality, removing Jowitt from the equation only brings Hooley into contention but how am I meant to know if he will be any better for us. I can only go on the comments about him since going out on loan.
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| Quote: homme vaste "Formerly known as Trinity18.'"
Don’t see how that’s relevant? Nor would I be let off if I were to reveal any of your previous entities.
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| Quote: WakeyTrin1873 "Don’t see how that’s relevant? Nor would I be let off if I were to reveal any of your previous entities.'"
He asked the question?
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| Quote: WakeyTrin1873 "Wouldn’t that be because Miller tries to take on the line as aposed to hitting the defender and dropping instantly?'"
Miller's running and footwork, what they call 'broken ankles' on the trendy clips of Kalyn Ponga et al in the NRL, of course leaves him prone to slipping. Much as MAx's position on the pitch does.
BOJO is just having another unnecessary pop at one of our players based on his limited TV viewing
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| Quote: wakefieldwall "Miller's running and footwork, what they call 'broken ankles' on the trendy clips of Kalyn Ponga et al in the NRL, of course leaves him prone to slipping. Much as MAx's position on the pitch does.
BOJO is just having another unnecessary pop at one of our players based on his limited TV viewing'"
How good is Kalyan Ponga though!? Haha brilliant to watch
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| Quote: WakeyTrin1873 "How good is Kalyan Ponga though!? Haha
He's quality. I'm disgusted MC hasn't at least tried to sign him to be honest
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| Quote: wakefieldwall "He's quality. I'm disgusted MC hasn't at least tried to sign him to be honest
Poor mans Jacob Miller
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| Quote: WakeyTrin1873 "Eh? What? I think you’re missing the point.
I do not think Jowitt is nor ever will be SL quality, removing Jowitt from the equation only brings Hooley into contention but how am I meant to know if he will be any better for us. I can only go on the comments about him since going out on loan.'"
I agree. And from what I've seen and heard he'll be better than Max in the long run, but just throwing him in when he is too young/not ready is counter productive.
Max is not terrible. He's had good games and bad games. One more game won't hurt us but it might hurt Hooley. With the fan feedback he'll no doubt get for 1 mistake I'd let him have an off season and then see where our 3 fullbacks line up.
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| I’m afraid you’ll never get to know this week as Luke is banned so Max plays, he would for me anyway.
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| Got to say I watched him with a bit of added attention Sunday with him being one of our former juniors. Yes was only one game but I didn't see anything that made me sit up and say he needs a SL shot. Can never go on one game at all just think he has a bit of developing to do before being ready. Although a full season in the championship will have done wonders for him going into pre season next year id have thought
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| Quote: thepimp007 "Got to say I watched him with a bit of added attention Sunday with him being one of our former juniors. Yes was only one game but I didn't see anything that made me sit up and say he needs a SL shot. Can never go on one game at all just think he has a bit of developing to do before being ready. Although a full season in the championship will have done wonders for him going into pre season next year id have thought'"
That`s fair enough but I am sure if you watched Jowitt or even Grix for that matter you would probably be saying the same.
I spoke to a player in our squad the other week who was talking about how good Grix was at organising our defence from the back, having a keen eye on numbers/overlap opportunities etc but we don`t see that from the stands though.
People so very often forget that there is more than meets the eye to a players game yet still question what they bring to the team.
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| And I don't want to be too critical but I've very definite mistakes from Jowitt where he has called a player to a position and got it completely wrong.
It's a Grix strength. But equally Jowitt has strengths Grix doesn't have.
But on balance when fit I'd rather have Grix's strengths.
The plan has to be to teach Jowitt and Hooley as much of that as they can take.
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