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| Quote: chissitt "There's nothing tongue in cheek about it, it seems Chester can't do right for doing wrong, choose who he plays at FB it's wrong, a lot of people wanted MCB in so he played him at somebody else's expense so then there's the outcry of dropping Johnstone that's assuming he isn't injured, same with the forwards, he can't play them all, except the people on here want's him to play their favourites all the time.
There will be things going on behind the scenes that we know nothing about, whether it be injuries or maybe attitude who knows, or maybe he knows that things aren't going to plan and he's trying to do something about it by changing thing around, that's what he gets paid for, and maybe if the armchair coaches on here had a bit more patience we just might be rewarded.'"
These are my thoughts too.
Comments made in hindsight are easy. If I could be bothered I would sort out the posts from people moaning one way and then switching the week after when it doesn't miraculously work.
The same people moan that they want to give youth a chance also moan that they want a settled team.
We base our view on watching 80 minutes rugby. Chester bases his on strategy for managing the players through the season and how he sees players perform in training. He talks to players and works through their flaws.
I'm pretty confident that CC does not pick his team to play his mates. And I'm sure he doesn't pick it based on the age of the player. He picks it based on which players are best placed to win the game, and the next game.
None of the players people want to swap in to the team have played significantly better than those already playing. Jowitt, MCB, Crowther, Batchelor and Annakin are all behind players that are better than they are at their peak.
Batchelor is the most likely of that bunch, and I'd happily play him in front of Kirmond right now when they are both at their best. I like what he has to offer but he hasn't set the world alight when given the chance so no one can say he is a guaranteed place or that Chester is keeping him out on purpose. Horo's best this year has been better. I'd like to see Chester find a way to get that style Horo with more consistency.
The only player who genuinely has a case for me is Hampshire. He was bought as back up so he was never going to start the season at scrum half. He possibly made mistakes against Leeds and we don't know what game plan was set for him so we don't know how Chester judged him. Most of us don't know what he does at training or why Chester preferred to see whether Finn could keep going. Clearly based on Finn's previous game management I should think Finn looks more likely to lead the team when in training.
Right now for me Finn has to step back and we go with Hampshire.........but he's equally under pressure to perform. We need an organiser and I fear he is more like Miller than Finn. He'll have to show one way or the other but I would like to see whether he can do it in more than one game. Finn hasn't played well enough to just get his place straight back after one game now.
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| Quote: vastman "Another forum idiot who makes it up as they go along, utterly pathetic and the main reason why most people can no longer be bothered with this forum.'"
I suppose only time will tell Vasty.
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| Quote: JINJER "I didn't read it like that Poptart, I read it that Tom's not happy with Chester's fixation with older players not individual players.'"
Maybe so. But if that is the case Odd SB is suggesting that Tom knows more about coaching and team selection than Chester. I'm not sure that is any better.
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| Quote: PopTart "Maybe so. But if that is the case Odd SB is suggesting that Tom knows more about coaching and team selection than Chester. I'm not sure that is any better.'"
Ok let me clarify if I can, Tom knows he had a bad game his mate was at the game and told him so, Tom acknowledged it but was a bit miffed to be dropped for the next game. The same source told me of the approach from other clubs, and you vasty need to be carefull whom you call an idiot.
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| Quote: Oddshapeball "Ok let me clarify if I can, Tom knows he had a bad game his mate was at the game and told him so, Tom acknowledged it but was a bit miffed to be dropped for the next game. The same source told me of the approach from other clubs, and you vasty need to be carefull whom you call an idiot.'"
Well If Tom has been approached by another club then I hope we take some sort of action as he is under contract.
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| Quote: homme vaste "Well If Tom has been approached by another club then I hope we take some sort of action as he is under contract.'"
I agree it is out of order but has happened for years, clubs approaching young players who may be feeling a bit unsettled in a clandestine way should be stopped. I am not saying anything will happen in the case in point I was not party to it I can only say that the person who told me is a good reliable guy who has no axe to grind so I will leave it there as has been stated earlier only time will tell.
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| Tom should be playing every game I am not sure why he isn't! he is in the ENGLAND squad how can he not make our first team! this is seriously hurting is chances of pulling on the England jumper which may see him leave
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| You are right about Johnson playing every week.His + out way is - .All he wants is the ball in is hands.It as not been happening down to slow passing across the line .If rocky plays think the passing will be faster.It was against HULL and LEEDS. Johnson good enough for the England squad but not good enough for Wakey first team, sums up this club.
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| rlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/article/52499/england-academy-national-performance-squad-announcedrl
No Wakefield lads in England Academy squad. Should save CC selection problems in the future.
Only Salford and Catalans share our lack of representation. 3rd tier Bradford manage 2!
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "rlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/article/52499/england-academy-national-performance-squad-announcedrl
No Wakefield lads in England Academy squad. Should save CC selection problems in the future.
Expected at Salford with no youth scholarship and I’m just guessing that those at Catalans are French.
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| Quote: alegend "You are right about Johnson playing every week.His + out way is - .All he wants is the ball in is hands.It as not been happening down to slow passing across the line .If rocky plays think the passing will be faster.It was against HULL and LEEDS. Johnson good enough for the England squad but not good enough for Wakey first team, sums up this club.'"
It does indeed sum up the club.
I read that as no matter who you are, if you have a bad game you are at risk from losing your place. Tom himself accepted he made mistakes and MCB was a worthy replacement on previous form.
Tom isn't here to get his England place, he is here to win as many games for Wakefield as he can. If it get's him in the England team then great, but on current form, all be it good for club level, he isn't going to be bumping Hall out of his position. Tom at his best is worthy of his place in the England squad. It doesn't mean he is guaranteed a place.
Saying that, I'd pick him at 80% given MCBs showing last time out.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "rlhttps://www.rugby-league.com/article/52499/england-academy-national-performance-squad-announcedrl
No Wakefield lads in England Academy squad. Should save CC selection problems in the future.
Is anyone able to say which amateur clubs the players came from? I always like to see where they actually come from rather than where they’ve been signed to play.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "Is anyone able to say which amateur clubs the players came from? I always like to see where they actually come from rather than where they’ve been signed to play.'"
Agree with you Steady, I’ve no doubt like me you think quite a few will be from this neck of the woods.
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| Quote: Big lads mate "Agree with you Steady, I’ve no doubt like me you think quite a few will be from this neck of the woods.'"
I hope so. Genuinely like to support local lads, regardless of their chosen colours - though obviously would prefer it the best went to Cas !!
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| I don't know our kids well enough.
Do we have players who were unlucky to miss out or do we just not have this e type of players in this batch.
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