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| Quote: wakefieldwall "The name that matches that is Matt Smith though he is not the dynamic half some of our supporters want.'"
Funnily enough I had divulged a little bit into Smith but then deleted it, he fits the bill providing he is fit and do believe should we ever find ourselves in a final/big game a player such as Smith could be the difference between winning and losing purely from an experience factor.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Funnily enough I had divulged a little bit into Smith but then deleted it, he fits the bill providing he is fit and do believe should we ever find ourselves in a final/big game a player such as Smith could be the difference between winning and losing purely from an experience factor.'"
Purely hypothetical of course but if Finn was going I’d take Matt Smith. High achiever at Super League level with a point to prove following being pushed out at Saints.
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| Im not in the get rid of Finn camp. He has his flaws but its not like he has suddenly got slow. Hes been just as slow when he's been outstanding for us.
For me he is suffering with injury and it's affecting him. He needs a rest to get it sorted not a boot out of the club.
Saying that if Cooper Cronk became available then of course we have to look ahead.
I like Smith a lot and would be great for us if the price was right......but if we need him that badly then we might as well get rid of Hampshire too. He's either the guy yo take over so give him a chance or not.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "The point Eastern Wildcat has made in regards to aspiration is spot on, Finn IMO had a very successful time in the Championship and a fairly impressive 4 years in Super League however these last few weeks have outlined it for me. We need to bring someone in who is a little younger, a little hungrier but also has the experience that Finn has.'"
So how about a 23 year old, with something to prove and nearly 100 SL games under his belt? Names Ryan Hampshire and funnily enough, he already plays for us (when given a chance).
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| Quote: ry21 "So how about a 23 year old, with something to prove and nearly 100 SL games under his belt? Names Ryan Hampshire and funnily enough, he already plays for us (when given a chance).'"
The lad who's been stuck at wing, full back, half back and hooker throughout his SL career? Who's currently not doing any better than Finn? Yeah I've seen him.
I like Hampshire but in my eyes he's not a first choice SL scrum half, not yet anyway.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "The lad who's been stuck at wing, full back, half back and hooker throughout his SL career? Who's currently not doing any better than Finn? Yeah I've seen him.
I like Hampshire but in my eyes he's not a first choice SL scrum half, not yet anyway.'"
I don't dispute the fact the lad's been used in numerous positions. What gets my goat is the fact we have a talented and hungry young lad, already in the building, yet we get threads and posts about players such as Smith and Sandow. One who is, in my opinion, clearly past his best, and the other who seems to be a complete idiot, who causes no end of trouble, wherever he ends up.
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| Let's give rocky the same games as Finn then we all know who is right or wrong
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| Quote: alegend "Let's give rocky the same games as Finn then we all know who is right or wrong'"
Just remember what Ry21 said... almost 100 SL games Rocky has had, Finn has actually only played about 120 SL games... Rocky should not be a first choice halfback for a SL club.
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| We shouldn't be trying anything out in games. Decide who the right one is and stick with it.
I hate this "He deserves a go" thing.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Just remember what Ry21 said... almost 100 SL games Rocky has had, Finn has actually only played about 120 SL games... Rocky should not be a first choice halfback for a SL club.'"
And of those, how many have come consecutively, in a single position?
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| Quote: PopTart "We shouldn't be trying anything out in games. Decide who the right one is and stick with it.
I hate this "He deserves a go" thing.'"
So he doesn't deserve more than the odd game here and there to prove himself?
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| Quote: PopTart "We shouldn't be trying anything out in games. Decide who the right one is and stick with it.
I hate this "He deserves a go" thing.'"
Spot on, Chester should know his best side by now and any changes he needs for particular opposition.
Unless someone has a severe problem with form/injury, we should be trying to have the same pivots in every game, so that they manage games between them and better understand what the plan is.
Apart from a couple of exceptions, our offence has been bloody awful for most of the season.
Defensively (apart from Salford) we've been pretty good and generally, we aren't too far away, either in terms of winning games and where we need to be in the table.
Improving discipline and completion rates will do far more for the side than chopping and changing personnel.
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| If we put Rocky in for the rest of the season, we have to be prepared to fail
Judging by the daft comments on here, we aren't allowed to fail WITH Finn, so what slack is Rocky gonna be cut.
How do you give an unproven 7 a long run without risking league position, its a balancing act with consequences.
Chezzy absolutely knows his team, why does anybody think Rocky isn't getting a good go at 7.
If 7 is gonna change, with top 8 nowhere near nailed on yet, it will have to be forced upon us, and I'm not even sure it'll be Rocky, though admittedly, options are limited.
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| Finny has played around 125 SL games, according to Wiki. One would presume all in the pivots, and Hampshire 82. I would guess that only around 50% of those were in the halves.
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| If we had a decent A-Team league as we did in the not too distant past all this "Is he good enough or isn't he?" nonsense would be sorted in the second team games. I seemed to work before.
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