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| Scarlett defended Agar to the hilt when he was running this club into the ground, why am I not suprised he's taking the Council's side here.
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| Quote: Shifty Cat ".........say you'll leave it at that but I bet when any other news about the stadium, Newmarket or WMDC pops up, you'll be soon on here to put your views across.'"
Which he's perfectly entitled to do. I don't get the big trauma about scarlett's posts.
He doesn't have to be a troll or a Car fan or an MC hater to have a different opinion.
Prove him wrong by all means but when I see snippy comments back instead of posts with substance (not you Shifty) it makes it look like he has a better thought out point.
So if you reason for posting is to make people aware etc, that isn't the way.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I don’t even mention MC, I would say he has more of a problem with me. I read the council lied about this etc. but who was it that suffers from mosqueaphobia. This is a new irrational fear of mosques being built with the support of the council.'"
I'm still waiting for your solutions to our ground problem.
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| Quote: PopTart "Which he's perfectly entitled to do. I don't get the big trauma about scarlett's posts.
He doesn't have to be a troll or a Car fan or an MC hater to have a different opinion.
Prove him wrong by all means but when I see snippy comments back instead of posts with substance (not you Shifty) it makes it look like he has a better thought out point.
So if you reason for posting is to make people aware etc, that isn't the way.'"
He is perfectly entitled yes but his blatant vendetta against MC does get rather tedious.
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| Quote: PopTart "Which he's perfectly entitled to do. I don't get the big trauma about scarlett's posts.
He doesn't have to be a troll or a Car fan or an MC hater to have a different opinion.
Prove him wrong by all means but when I see snippy comments back instead of posts with substance (not you Shifty) it makes it look like he has a better thought out point.
So if you reason for posting is to make people aware etc, that isn't the way.'"
Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both'"
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both'"
That's a fair point to be honest. I was tending to agree with Pop tart but you're right.
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| I do not have a vendetta against anyone I merely try to point out the stupidity of statements that cannot be verified.
I never backed Agar on the forum because he had gone long before I joined.
I read the same basic statement on nearly every post which on one thread covers over 20 pages.
Let the court case proceed if it does and providing the club win you can start another 20 + page thread. If they lose which they had better not the costs I would expect to be very large and I doubt they will ask the ratepayers of Wakefield to stand the cost.
If you believe what you post about Box or now Jeffries any of you can stand it is still a free country but only just.
The forum I regret is now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension. How many members no longer post, I guess you will soon have it all to yourselves.
Your mantra is ban those who dare to ask questions because they have no right to post on this forum. What we say should be accepted as fact even if we have to do it multiple times.
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both'"
I've been clear to the Cas fans that it isn't their forum so need to understand they will be treated more harshly if they (or any other away fan) come on to troll or wind us up.
As far as I know Scarlett is a Wakefield fan.
If I was judging posts on substance there would pretty much be a couple of Trust members left on here
And no one has ever reported anything he has said.
In the same example, plenty of people had a problem with Glover when he was chairman and aired their view a lot on here. I'm pretty supportive of our chairman and what he has done for the club but the rules apply to us all equally on here. Me included.
Unless a posted says something against the AUP they are pretty free to go.
Saying that I'll look at the posts again.
If anyone can give a good example where the AUP has been breached then I or Wildthing can deal with it just like anyone else.
Irritating you or having a different opinion isn't one of those examples though.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I do not have a vendetta against anyone I merely try to point out the stupidity of statements that cannot be verified.
I never backed Agar on the forum because he had gone long before I joined.
I read the same basic statement on nearly every post which on one thread covers over 20 pages.
Let the court case proceed if it does and providing the club win you can start another 20 + page thread. If they lose which they had better not the costs I would expect to be very large and I doubt they will ask the ratepayers of Wakefield to stand the cost.
If you believe what you post about Box or now Jeffries any of you can stand it is still a free country but only just.
The forum I regret is now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension. How many members no longer post, I guess you will soon have it all to yourselves.
Your mantra is ban those who dare to ask questions because they have no right to post on this forum. What we say should be accepted as fact even if we have to do it multiple times.
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum'"
You say you are a supporter of the club yet all your posts appear negative towards it and it’s chairman.
You say the comments cannot be verified but how do you know? In any event it is peoples views based on the information put forward by the club/trust vs that supplied by the council. Most people want the best for the club and can see the clear agenda on the councils part to look like they have done all they can and make out it’s the clubs fault nothing has happened.
Part of the reason the thread is so long is things keep needing repeating as people seem to keep coming up with views based on a clear misunderstanding of the information laid before them and the record needs setting straight
Also just cos a number of folk think box and his cronies are useless why do we need to stand against them? It’s like me suggesting you offer to buy the club from MC as you seem to suggest he isn’t acting in the best interests of the club
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| I have quite a wide circle of mates who are Waky fans and we all have realised what is happening in the big picture here and at the risk of upsetting SP we all back MC to the hilt. The council might have thought they were being clever and winning a propaganda war with an announcement laying the blame for failure at Wakefield Trinity's door (Re Belle Vue) but it was the final clincher and the penny finally dropped for us all that we were never going to get anything from this present lot.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum'"
As am I and I also don't blindly except what the Club says, even though I'd take MC's word over some developer or WMDC, just down to experience.
What I can do on this issue though to get the facts, is go back to WMDC's planning portal when all this started and read for myself what was promsied, for what reasons & how it was all gong to happen. Plus how Yorkcout got all that land taken out of greenbelt down to a S106 agreement. Which like I said to your previous point, was a lot to do with the 15000 signatures & the backing of the Community as a whole, as well as the need of better Community Sports facilities and creating jobs. Which WMDC were supposedly 100% behind back then. It is there where I have issue with what you say.
You try to paint a picture of this being all abour just Trinity, when factually that's wrong. You constantly talk about the ratepayer but yet fail to see it's them that's been shafted in this, Trinity supporter or not. Even if you're trying to play devils advocate as a Trinity fan about this issue, it doesn't come across that way at all to me. In fact if you're a Wakefield ratepayer, how don't you feel completely let down by all this?
You also say this forum is 'now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension.' No you're wrong, on the issue of what has happened at Newmarket, I think you'll find most people certainly agree that we've been shafted by several people , not just WMDC. But as far as topics such as the team, players we've got, new signings & how well we've played etc, it certainly isn't. We have a wide and varied discussion about those topics, but I suppose that doesn't suit your agenda/opinion.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I do not have a vendetta against anyone I merely try to point out the stupidity of statements that cannot be verified.
I never backed Agar on the forum because he had gone long before I joined.
I read the same basic statement on nearly every post which on one thread covers over 20 pages.
Let the court case proceed if it does and providing the club win you can start another 20 + page thread. If they lose which they had better not the costs I would expect to be very large and I doubt they will ask the ratepayers of Wakefield to stand the cost.
If you believe what you post about Box or now Jeffries any of you can stand it is still a free country but only just.
The forum I regret is now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension. How many members no longer post, I guess you will soon have it all to yourselves.
Your mantra is ban those who dare to ask questions because they have no right to post on this forum. What we say should be accepted as fact even if we have to do it multiple times.
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum'"
This quote from February 2014 would suggest otherwise - can't be d to look for any more details but your statement above is clearly wrong.
Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I have continued to support Agar but even I think it is now time for a change while we are still ahead of the relegation zone. I guess all coaches reach the time when they can no longer offer the team anything further.
It appears that the team is no longer playing for him however, we can pontificate as much as we like but the final decision will be down to those in charge. I would suggest they discuss the situation with the senior players to gauge their opinions.
The bottom line is that all these threads demanding his sacking are now redundant and only serve to benefit those whose views are well documented and I presume understood by the people running the club. When we lose on Monday you will all be back on stating the same demands, why bother.'"
You joined February 2014, Agar left in June 2014
HTH
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| Quote: Fordy "This quote from February 2014 would suggest otherwise - can't be d to look for any more details but your statement above is clearly wrong.
You joined February 2014, Agar left in June 2014
HTH'"
You have either forgotten or was oblivious to the fact that before Scarlet Pimpernel reinvented himself he used to post as Agent13, well inside Agar's tenure.
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| Quote: little wayne69 "You have either forgotten or was oblivious to the fact that before Scarlet Pimpernel reinvented himself he used to post as Agent13, well inside Agar's tenure.'"
A bit O/T but who was Rhubarb, was this another of Scarlett's posting names.
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