For starters Maffy I didn't start the argument the poster I replied to did so cut that nonsense out for starters.

To answer your question I have no specific knowledge hence no proof - so what.

What proof do you have to the contrary other than a doodle on the internet - The word of a dodgy developer - who for christ sake is the same developer who has reneged on NM - HOW OBVIOUS DO YOU NEED IT TO BE!) - A politician who has failed to deliver twice before THAT'S NEWMARKET AND THORNE'S PARK.

Short of it being etched in blood how more obvious do you want the warning signs to be?

I was sceptical from the start if you check back most notably car parking and access - having over the weeks investigated further, talked to people who know about these things it doesn't look good.

That said it's not impossible and I hope with all my heat it actually happens and until we get further info I'll try to keep an open mind - however that goes both way's - which is why I resent the doom monger stuff, it's called realism gained from experience.

I hope that above hasn't shaken your rose tinted world to much.

Nice of you to say so!

I can only go on what i was told a couple of weeks back. Now this is friend of a friend stuff so take it as you will but that friend is an employeee of 88M. To everyone there this seems a genuine attempt and confidence is high of success. Now i admit i have always been in the believe it when i see it camp and i remain there but this seems a lot more encouraging than previous attempt and Manni Hussain will not suffer fools like Box & Mackie gladly. I was told the timescale of the end of the month is restrictive and it may be two or three weeks after that until things are ready but after 30 years of broken promises i'll take that if it means it gets built.

Now it may fall flat on its backside again and we are all being played for fools and we should definately proceed with our eyes open but i for one are willing to give 88M chance to prove themselves as we aren't holding a great hand here and we need it to work. Slagging off the only people right now who can help us is very counter productive. If we are still in the dark and there is a wall of silence in a month or so's time, then i might start getting twitchy but right now i'm cautiously positive.

All I originally asked for was an update!!!!!. Ideally from either Mr C or a member of the trust!!!

Not sure where the rose tinted world fits in, I merely asked you to explain other than on past dealings why you think they they'll let us down, because that's the impression your giving out without proof yet in the same breath you admit your clueless over the situation, but your more than happy to give them a chance, very gracious of you indeed.
One thing I don't understand in all this is your aggression towards people what don't agree with you, it's no wonder this board is slowly dying, who needs it.

I never said I was clueless.

Far from being a troll Wollo. just a long-standing Trinity fan of sixty-one years standing who's keenly interested in the future of his club. Does that upset you? Or did you just want to air your seizure inducing heading one more time!!!!!!

Why would you be bothered? You are a Cas fan aren't you?

This is why the planned public meeting should be welcomed.It doesn't matter who called it or what their motive is,we should attend in numbers and make sure that there is a strong press representation.It should be held after we know exactly what is on the table.

Agree with that 100 % _Wildcat, and the public meeting should go ahead even if Box, Mackey Jeffries, Wallhead Hussain decline to attend.

Your daughter and oldest lad certainly have the better taste in RL Team.

Nothing wrong in having a foot in both camps, as long as you get your priorities right. I certainly have.

I will also add that since we met she has been to Belle Vue more often than Craven Park.

If they have nothing to hide or fear surely they would attend. It would give them the chance to show their good faith and intentions and also gain a good bit of positive publicity.

IF they do not attend, then it tells you all you need to know about their true intentions and commitment

HOWEVER

I have been following this debate since it started. My opinion from the outset was that this was nothing more than another quickly thought out scheme with very little research that had been cobbled together to placate the 'masses'

I think what helped to convince people it may be credible was the initial response from MC. However MC and Chris are no fools and they would obviously ask all the right questions and check out all the details. Of all the schemes we have had so far and this is about the 5th, it must be obvious that this is the most problematic from a site perspective and also the most complex because of the number of people involved to provide the funding streams. One other major factor is that the stench of Walker is all over the background.

People are calling Belly and Vastman out for being wrong with their negative outlook. I hate to say this but they will be proved right.

I can't post hard facts, although I do have some which I have been told in confidence, however the bulk of the basis for my opinion is based on past experience, the interpretation of the details in the publice domain and the past record of the 'snakes' involved.

I really hope I am wrong about all this but I have the feeling this scheme will soon be ditched and another back of a fag packet plan will be released for public consumption.

However I can give you one fact that I believe is undisputable. While ever BOX is running WMDC we will not get one brick laid at any stadium.
He hates the club and will do all in his power to make sure nothing ever gets done.