If he doesnt count on quota then would be happy with the signing as a back up, provided we are still going after Pauli.

With these, plus the addition of Baldwinson and Horo, to me would give us a stronger pack overall, than that of 2017.

aula

Give over it's one or the other.

Why is Pauli suudenly a better option than Springer the blokes hardly played a game in the last year.

I also seriously doubt you've ever seen him play other than YouTube highlights.

Also where is the cash coming from? Your the accountant.

Finally who says we are after him 'chippy women'? No just some random poster.

If you're wondering why you get shot down this is it.

FWIW I'd take either, why we'd need both I don't know. What club has 7 props in the squad that's a quarter of the team.

Just to remind that would be Fifita, England, Huby, Hirst, Baldwinson, plus Pauli and Springer. Slight overkill tbh.

Anyone know how much extra we get for finishing 5th? Isn't it nothing for 8th and £25000 For each position after? If so we would have £75000 extra for 5th?

And how much more do you think we had to agree to increase the salaries of the players we have brilliantly managed to retain.

The reason I said both is that since the start of 2017 we have lost Allgood, Ant and Adam Walker. I would think given Allgoods experience he would have been on more than Springer or Pauli. Would think Adam Walker was on a fair salary too.

I havent mentioned Williams, Gibson or Molloy, which two have gone and not been replaced and I dont think Molloy will be here next year. I see Baldwinson at the moment a Molloy replacement as he has played a fair bit in the back row too.

As for the money, there will be prize money and I would hazard a guess that our crowds are slightly up on last year as well as some of our other revenue streams.

Out of curiosity Vastman, you keep mentioning my profession, as well as resident know it all, what is yours?

For the record the chippy comment was from the owner of a very popular chippy in Wakefield where there is a lot of rugby memorabilia on the wall

Sure I read we weren’t getting our full allocation of sky money next season due to ground not meeting all criteria and this being the case will offset any prize money etc

That's a bit harsh innit pet, it's only yesterday you were singing his praises, in the words of Esther Phillips, what a difference a day makes

Surely that should apply to another club in a similar situation ground wise. If true of course.

Tbf I'd heard the Pauli Pauli rumour from a couple of lads who usually aren't too far off the mark. Also got told about a prop who's name was mentioned a few pages ago who's still under contract at his current club but mooted as part of a swap deal with a player who's still on our books, but what's the point if I have to justify everything to Vasty? I believe these are still targets with nothing concrete.

Nobody ever takes that into account.

You don't need to justify anything to me as I really don't care what you think

I'm afraid it doesn't work like that it's not lego. Like Belly says what about all long term deals signed in recent month? Most players have contracts that yield more the more games they play. You can very quickly end up with a smaller squad that costs more - in fact that's what you want as it shows you are signing and creating quality players.

As for your question - it's not me who keeps mentioning your profession it's you - you've mentioned it umpteen times, which of course is your prerogative - however I think you are the only person on here whose profession I know.

Finally I didn't know you'd made a 'chippy' reference, I was just being light hearted.

I'm a gogo dancer by the way

Its a fair point Belly about retaining players.

One thing I would add, as other teams in super league are pretty much maxed out on the salary cap, there wouldnt be too much wiggle room for negiotiating by other clubs.

There is also such a thing is squad and club culture which seems to be a big thing the players are buying into.

Good luck with the go go dancing. Always thought pink would suit you.

I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular but I have a few questions regarding Pauli Pauli. I know this is a thread about Gadwin Springer but PP seems to be flavour of the month.

1: PP is nearly 20 stone and 6' 4'' even in the NRL that is a monster - so why is it's basement club getting rid of what appears to be an asset?

2: He has 48 NRL games under his belt, that's a lot more than Fifita had. Thats the same Fifita the KNIGHTS! were trying to sign at the end of 2016. Is it just me who finds that odd, why would Newcastle replace what appears to be a superior player on paper with an inferior one

3: Why are no other NRL teams interested?

4: There are at least 5-6 SL far more in need of a big prop than we are, why are they not interested?

Now in the case of 3 - 4 they may be interested but I've seen nothing.

Now if we do sign him the I'm happy to trust CC and JK judgement. However there are far more question marks over this player than there are over Springer. Could very well be another Charlie Leona or worse a ********* can't even say his name, Better the devil you know sometimes.