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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "MC has been asked the difference between cas and wakey on this respect and the answer is fairly straight forward.

Belle vue does not meet the number of criteria the rfl require to deem it "suitable" . Wheldon Lane does. For now, anyway.

Hence the other questions in your post become irrelevant.

I'm pretty sure at some point soon castleford will be in the situation Wakefield are in, and will be demanded to evidence progression on the new ground. But as yet this isn't necessary.

I'm not making out Wheldon lane is anything other than a run-down old thing. And I certainly don't want to get into the monotonous "who's ground is worse" arguments....

But the answer to the above is fairly plain.

With regard to "D Day", I sincerely hope that the rfl interpret the council asking the developer to walk away as a positive. It could easily be misconstrued as a backward step.'"


Yeah! see what you mean DAVE. I was there when your floodlights blew up!! Very safe eh?

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Quote: Redscat "Yeah! see what you mean DAVE. I was there when your floodlights blew up!! Very safe eh?'"


Bit of a pointless argument since they've been fixed.

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Quote: jakeyg95 "Bit of a pointless argument since they've been fixed.'"

I'll not bother mentioning the Princess Street wall that blew down then as that's now been rebuilt eusa_silenced.gif

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "

With regard to "D Day", I sincerely hope that the rfl interpret the council asking the developer to walk away as a positive. It could easily be misconstrued as a backward step.'"


If the RFL are aware of the facts (as I'm sure they are) then they will know the reason that Yorkcourt were asked to walk away was because they never intended to build a stadium. Just seems they used the deception to milk some green belt land they wouldn't otherwise have got and make some huge profit .
The whole things a bloody mess caused by some people who have no morals; and I don't just refer to the obvious ones that spring to mind. The fact we don't own the ground still annoys me.

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Well, yeah. Floodlight fixed, wall fixed. Like I say, I'm not saying it's the Santiago Bernebau. Cas ground being unfit for purpose is your opinion, but luckily not the RFLs. There's no point arguing over it - cas currently meet minimum requirements and Wakefield don't. Whether that's fair or not, who knows, and I'm sure it's a bitter pill, but it doesn't change anything. And it certainly makes no difference to Wakefield's situation.

As it stands Wakefield have had to half their stadium capacity for safety reasons (presumably ongoing) which isn't good for the game or for Wakefield themselves.

I appreciate it's easy to look around and think "why always us" considering the sagas you guys have had to endure over the last 10 years. But comparing your scenario to ANYONE'S is pretty much impossible. I don't think any sports club in the UK is in a similar situation, on a whole lotta levels.

Hopefully you guys can get a committed developer at least showing interest before next week

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The shame is, whilst our ground superstructure is in a woeful estate, you've got to admit that our playing surface is, and has been for a long time, probably the best in the League. Unfortunately, that's not what counts to those at Red Hall.

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "Well, yeah. Floodlight fixed, wall fixed. Like I say, I'm not saying it's the Santiago Bernebau. Cas ground being unfit for purpose is your opinion, but luckily not the RFLs. There's no point arguing over it - cas currently meet minimum requirements and Wakefield don't. Whether that's fair or not, who knows, and I'm sure it's a bitter pill, but it doesn't change anything. And it certainly makes no difference to Wakefield's situation.

As it stands Wakefield have had to half their stadium capacity for safety reasons (presumably ongoing) which isn't good for the game or for Wakefield themselves.

I appreciate it's easy to look around and think "why always us" considering the sagas you guys have had to endure over the last 10 years. But comparing your scenario to ANYONE'S is pretty much impossible. I don't think any sports club in the UK is in a similar situation, on a whole lotta levels.

Hopefully you guys can get a committed developer at least showing interest before next week'"

No it doesn't meet minimum standards , hence why the RFL are punishing you financially to the tune of 50k as they are with us (and will rise accordingly). What it does is meet more of the criteria than BV does hence the pressure is on us more.

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "Well, yeah. Floodlight fixed, wall fixed. Like I say, I'm not saying it's the Santiago Bernebau. Cas ground being unfit for purpose is your opinion, but luckily not the RFLs. There's no point arguing over it - cas currently meet minimum requirements and Wakefield don't. Whether that's fair or not, who knows, and I'm sure it's a bitter pill, but it doesn't change anything. And it certainly makes no difference to Wakefield's situation.

As it stands Wakefield have had to half their stadium capacity for safety reasons (presumably ongoing) which isn't good for the game or for Wakefield themselves.

I appreciate it's easy to look around and think "why always us" considering the sagas you guys have had to endure over the last 10 years. But comparing your scenario to ANYONE'S is pretty much impossible. I don't think any sports club in the UK is in a similar situation, on a whole lotta levels.

Hopefully you guys can get a committed developer at least showing interest before next week'"


Wheldon Road definitely doesn't meet minimum standards, you're just in a seemingly much better position to eventually move hence the RFL are more lenient.

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The RFL may not as such be the villains here, but would it hurt them, if they are genuinely concerned about the club, to show an interest and attend some of the meetings the trust and council hold

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "The RFL may not as such be the villains here, but would it hurt them, if they are genuinely concerned about the club, to show an interest and attend some of the meetings the trust and council hold'"

I also wondered whether a representative from WMDC would be available to explain their role/position in this sorry saga to the RFL on Monday?

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "The RFL may not as such be the villains here, but would it hurt them, if they are genuinely concerned about the club, to show an interest and attend some of the meetings the trust and council hold'"


They're so not!

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Been supporting our team since 1960 and so upset at what appears to be the inevitable. Just hoping for some miracle.

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I wouldn’t be surprised to see you moving to Odsal next season it would get the RFL out of the mess they created at Bradford

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Quote: Mulder "I wouldn’t be surprised to see you moving to Odsal next season it would get the RFL out of the mess they created at Bradford'"

No thanks. Odsal is in a worse condition than BV.

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Quote: wakeytrin "No thanks. Odsal is in a worse condition than BV.'"


Its really not. The terrace is in pretty good condition. Odsals naff with the away stand 10 miles from the pitch and it being -10 when everywhere in the country is enjoying 20 degrees. Very little atmosphere due to its size and no roof. But the state of the terracing, stand is in pretty good nick. Anyway don't want to get in childish arguments who's stadium is worse.

Feel for your chariman and team. Wakey are actually one of the few teams i enjoy watching in SL. From outsider looking in looks like the developer is deliberatly trying to avoid building the stadium. I hope you get it sorted as MC is an honest chairman who deserves it. If we had an owner his honesty, we wouldn't be in the state we are in now. Good luck!

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