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Quote: vastman "I'm really not interested in this sort of stuff - it's up to the club stewards or the law to deal with it rather than a public lynch mob.

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This was my point earlier. Where do you draw the line when "naming" people on these forums. Didn't some guy in the UK get killed not long back when wrongly accused of being a paedophile?

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However I'm facinated where this anti semitism with Leeds comes from - I don't get it. I've heard it before over the years but don't get the connection.
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When fans could virtually shout what they liked off the terraces way back in the 60's this was generally the favoured insult used by the older guys when playing Leeds. Really, really surprised it's still going on.

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Quote: vastman "I'm really not interested in this sort of stuff - it's up to the club stewards or the law to deal with it rather than a public lynch mob.'"



Quote: vastman "This is obviously one moron who, hopefully, the club will deal with if his name has been provided to Mr Carter.

It's refreshing that Leeds fans haven't done the usual "all Wakey fans are anti-Semitic" - which is the oft-heard knee-jerk response to hearing one comment in a crowd; a very measured response, and I hope this unpleasant individual is named and banned.'"


I wouldn't publicly name and shame unless there is hard proof, to be honest I'd hold back then - just ban him for life, he was an utter disgrace.

The Leeds fans he was having a go at were a perfectly reasonable bunch, and to their credit did not rise to the bait. Many Wakefield fans in the area were telling him to shut up and were obviously cringing at his behaviour. I dont know what triggered it, but he was completely out of order.

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Quote: wakeyrule "I wouldn't publicly name and shame unless there is hard proof, to be honest I'd hold back then - just ban him for life, he was an utter disgrace.

The Leeds fans he was having a go at were a perfectly reasonable bunch, and to their credit did not rise to the bait. Many Wakefield fans in the area were telling him to shut up and were obviously cringing at his behaviour. I dont know what triggered it, but he was completely out of order.'"

Whereabouts in the ground exactly did this happen?

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Quote: JINJER "Whereabouts in the ground exactly did this happen?'"


Lower terrace of the North stand. Pretty much around where Leeds' first try was scored.

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Leeds have some of the best fans in the game. Their support never wavered during last season, and they stuck with them throughout many years of "always the bridesmaid, never the bride". This dominance is only ten years old in reality. I have never associated them with trouble and on the whole a classy bunch, like those of Saints and Wigan.

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "Leeds have some of the best fans in the game. Their support never wavered during last season, and they stuck with them throughout many years of "always the bridesmaid, never the bride". This dominance is only ten years old in reality. I have never associated them with trouble and on the whole a classy bunch, like those of Saints and Wigan.'"


It's not the fans who earned the Leeds club their reputation.

Watersplash is the prime example.

Yorkshire cup finals at Headingley even when Leeds were in them.

Flashing the cash year after year to entice other clubs star players.

Picking the bones of Keighley Cougars.

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Quote: King Street Cat "Lower terrace of the North stand. Pretty much around where Leeds' first try was scored.'"


I was there - was this the middle aged bloke who got escorted out with a much older guy? I didn't quite see what happened - just the aftermath.

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Quote: bren2k "I was there - was this the middle aged bloke who got escorted out with a much older guy? I didn't quite see what happened - just the aftermath.'"


Sounds like the same incident.

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Quote: bren2k "I was there - was this the middle aged bloke who got escorted out with a much older guy? I didn't quite see what happened - just the aftermath.'"

The older guy was the one kicking off, the younger guy (someone said it was his son) waded in to back him up.

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Quote: sgtwilko "In the Jew end of course!'"


Don't even joke about it! its embarrassing for 99.99% of us Trinity supporters icon_sad.gif

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I get some forms of racism and xenaphobia - don't agree with it but I see the twisted logic.

In the current climate you can see where it's easy to whip up anti Muslim feeling. In the same way you can see how extremist Muslim clerics whip up anti Christian feeling. It's a two way street I'm afraid.

But anti semitism especially in this country remains a mystery. We share half a religion. We look pretty much the same and share a common culture.

Being a racist of any creed is tedious enough but to bring it down to this level is perverse.

I know RL like football it's meant to be partisan - but only relative to which shirt you wear. It's not meant to be real ffs, it's just a bit of escapism.

This kind of extreme attitude is what ruined football. Worse stil it invites in the finger wagging liberal puritans who will make it their mission to be outraged. In fact there are a fair few already infesting these forums.

So reluctantly I to say grass them up. I don't want to watch a game without plenty of earthy banter between fans but that's what will sadly happen if we don't occasionally weed out the real bad apples.

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Earthy banter is good for sport, racism/anti semitism/ homophobia etc have no place in our sport, or any sport for that matter.

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Quote: JINJER "Earthy banter is good for sport, racism/anti semitism/ homophobia etc have no place in our sport, or any sport for that matter.'"


That would be what I said icon_wink.gif

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Quote: vastman "We share half a religion.'"


Speak for yourself - I don't share any half of any religion, and it always strikes me that a significant amount of strife and division amongst human beings would be gone in a puff of logic if we were to finally grow up as a civilisation and consign all religion to the age of ignorance, where it came from, and still belongs.

But still - until that happy time, we don't want an anti-Semite pensioner running amok on the terraces of BV.

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Quote: bren2k "Speak for yourself - I don't share any half of any religion, and it always strikes me that a significant amount of strife and division amongst human beings would be gone in a puff of logic if we were to finally grow up as a civilisation and consign all religion to the age of ignorance, where it came from, and still belongs.

But still - until that happy time, we don't want an anti-Semite pensioner running amok on the terraces of BV.'"


Get ff your big red liberal horse Bren icon_wink.gif

I meant in a historical sense. I'm not religious but I'm fairly sure my ancestors were!

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