To use a 'Stevoism', at 44-4, Cas probably 'put the cue on the rack'.

To be fair its the rule that needs changing. There were some complaints about it happening last year but nothings been done and it just angers the fans.

Before the game on another board I tipped Hock to be sent off....lol

So in that respect I lost that one, but there was a hefty dollop of niggle going on in there, its only a matter of time.

If he hadn't reacted like he did when McShane caught him I think Macca would have been looking at more than just a penalty conceded but old Gaz couldn't resist throwing a punch while laid on his back.
I thought it was very noticeable that Gadwin targeted Hock every time and when Leigh took Hock off Cas took Gadwin off and when Hock came back on so did Gadwin to start the fun all over again.
It would be interesting to see the stats because despite being under the cosh I thought Hock put a lot of work in.

No!
I disagree, the games tough, always has been and real players played the game tough asking no quarter and giving none.

This chav like whooping and hollering, rubbing people's heads when they make a mistake, gesturing at refs to encourage a sin bin and the aforementioned outhouse tactics systemic in Leigh performances were never part of this mans game until relatively recent.

Refs need to start penalising ungentlemanly and unsporting conduct!

Couldn't agree more Avenger. Unless the reff take total charge of the game we are in danger of going the same way as football. Total respect seems to have been replaced with respect now and again.
When things are going your way.
St Helens are the masters of slowing the play the ball. They constantly have one defender involved in the tackle behind the play the balll he then decides to make an effort to get up just as the balls played resulting in a slow play the ball and a restricted choice of which way to go .
Sky pundits often referre to a clever player or he
Knows what he's doing when a player deliberately looks for a free kick , well in my book it's ungentemanly conduct.

I'd rather refs penalise a spear tackle , especially that players 1 st tackle of the year , hardly claim he was tired Or even just his technique , he placed his hands between the legs , outlawed years ago , it was deliberate and not what could be defined as ' niggle ' that came when he dropped down on Gareth with his forearm

Let's assume Hock had done that tackle , what would have been everybody's opinion ?

happy to discuss several other seemingly deliberate actions by Cas , we need to learn what is allowed in SL , very different to the Championship

The best way to stop players from cheating is to avoid standing in a line of opposition players and make an effort to get back, and make an effort to roll away when on the floor.

To get caught out three times within 15 minutes in today's game was a real bummer.

still better in attack than us - we had finn at hooker !!!! what the

I was no fan of us signing Gareth , but last season he was constantly targeted and was actually binned a couple of times for being fouled against , he has cleaned up to a large degree and knows anything major wont be tolerated

Bottom line is Mc Shane should have been binned , nothing accidental about his tackle , hands between the legs and lifted

And yes deliberately throwing the ball at an offside player isn't what we want to see , however there are much more other important issues that need addressing in the game than that

But that's the point, if Hock hadn't reacted like he did to Macca's tackle I think he would have been binned. Instead he threw a punch up at McShane while laid on his back and it all kicked off. So the ref sorted it all out and just gave Leigh the penalty. The alternative would have been to bin them both.

If somebody had just piled me into the ground ( deliberately ) I'd have ripped his head off

So you have no argument I'm afraid

If Gareth had done the tackle the whole RL world would have been screaming RED

I'm far from what could be described as a Gareth Hock fan - I can't stand the bloke; but I think you're right on this one - McShane deserved to go for that, and the lack of reaction from most quarters is probably based on his reputation as one of the games biggest $h1thouses - which he is.

Welcome to the world of having a notorious $hithouse in your super league team, we had it with Moore and he was targeted constantly, I'd expect the same will happen with Hock. He's going to be a target and needs to learn how to be in complete control of his emotions unless you want to see him at the MRP almost every week