If the story on Smith is true then I'm inclined to say he wasn't at the right place.
I still like him and think he's a good coach and should be respected but you have to know and appreciate the area you are working in. I'm not sure he did.

It would have been better if Cater had never convinced him to come back this year. Smith said it was short term and shouldn't have changed his mind.

On tonight's game, and there after, it will be interesting to see how the same players who aren't quite performing come out and play now.
I don't think we'll see a massive change tonight, though Miller seems to play his best against Hull, but once Chester starts working in earnest I hope to see good things happening.

Very well put.

If we're going to be really pedantic
The tablets of stone aledgedly written on by God were thrown down and broken by Moses when he saw the Isrealites worshiping a false God.

The Ten Commandments were then written onto new tablets of stone by someone, probably not Moses but at least supervised by him.

Back to the thread then..

17 are...

Hall
Jowitt
Gibson
Arundel
Johnstone
Miller
Finn
Scruton
Howarth
England
Molloy
Ashurst
Tupou

Subs..Simon, Walker, Sio, Annakin

I'm sure Wally Lewis passed the tablets 50 yards like a tracer bullet at the bottom of Mount Sinai.

I'm enjoying this religious debate, praise be to you all...

Sounds like the usual story, too many penalties and too much dropped ball.

Out muscled.....England injured...

They fronted up fairly well in defence. Got in the right positions but once in those positions really seemed to be completely clueless. Tom Johnstone impressive again. Gibson did pretty well. Finn tries hard but as we know lacks pace, Miller was better without being outstanding. Losing England early on was a big blow. Hulls second try was never in this world a try. Michaels dropped the ball and out his hands up giving himself up, th crowd all groaned in unison and then child's told him to play on! I know they say play to the whistle but god that was shocking! Jowitt was solid as well. No one was poor really but I'd say hulls forwards were better than wakeys on the whole.

Hulls last 3 tries

Silly of us not to play to the whistle
Blatant obstruction
Forward pass

It was silly not to play to the whistle you're right but it was that obvious a knock on that both sides actually stopped. Michaels gave himself up completely and then child's told him to carry on! Gave some baffling decisions both ways. Should be demoted after that display he really was that bad, again for both teams. Demote him though and who takes his place? Groves was better than both Hocks and Child's for me and the RFL have let him go!

Listened on the radio and while they are normally quite biased they said fair play to Wakefields defence but some of the decisions from Child's were baffling. The mans a numpty and while he can't be blamed for our handling errors he shouldn't be allowed to ref at this level until he has proven himself

He was by no means the reason Wakey lost, far from it. The reason was they couldn't turn pressure in to points and some of the justified penalties were silly. Another baffler kick goes up ball bounces in to a Wakey players hands, player scores, ref pulls it back and awards Wakey a penalty???

The penalty was for blocking a on rushing player and the ball went forward from the bounce so no try and back to original pen.

2 tries in 160 minutes of RL is a bit concerning.

Chester has his work cut out. He has to fix a leaky defence whilst sharpening up a blunt attack. Not easy.