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Quote: The Avenger "That was the question you posed and the one to which I answered.

No I don't, I think you've mixed me up with someone else, either that or you're making things up. Care to offer some evidence of my "endlessly" banging on?

Really? You're accusing me of that!

The minute I see someone posting in quotes I realise I'm not dealing with normal I'm dealing with a tedious pedant - so for the sake of my sanity you win argument over eusa_shhh.gif

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Quote: vastman "The minute I see someone posting in quotes I realise I'm not dealing with normal I'm dealing with a tedious pedant - so for the sake of my sanity you win argument over
That's laughable old boy, so by making my answer clear to read I'm not normal, give me strength!

Admit it, you did what you often do and jumped down the throat of a poster who dared to criticise one of your idols, you got caught out and couldn't wriggle out of it, so you resorted to calling names.

If you don't want to be challenged then stop being sanctimonious

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Back on topic please Chaps. PM each other if you wish to continue your joust. Thanks.

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Quote: Wildthing "Back on topic please Chaps. PM each other if you wish to continue your joust. Thanks.'"


Yes, sorry, allowed myself to get sucked in!

Sad to see Walshaw leave, Ithink given more time in either the second row, preferably, or centre he would have proved himself a valuable member of the squad

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Quote: vastman "Forgot you are the expert on everything VASTY wigan had a lot of players playing who had not even got to first team yet.jack murphy, jack hughes, greg burke, sam powell, logan tomkins, tom spencer, jon molloy, matty russell. you say we didnt have a great crop of youngsters but we went down cas and ripped them to bits. who was playing for cas, holmes, thomson, clarke, arundel, milner, ben gledhill to name a few these were blooded the following year ours wernt so something went wrong with our development. chris annekin should hjave been made into an hooker, tom harrington out played callum watkins and knocked him all over. cain was talented but awkward to deal with. joel gibson nasty and tough as boots. cowling not looked after. greyson not looked after. wildie messed about too much.
adam slater messed about adam gledhill messed about. what kear did was bring in other acadamy products of the same age eg howarth and a couple of others this is where he let them down they were our own. in my eyes kear didnt know what to do with them they need to be drip fed in play a few games take them out again when they dip.
walshaw had one main problem leg speed not when in full running but reseting in defence and getting off his mark this was mentioned to kear and he did nothing. as for agar his comments when he was told he had good youth were im not here to polish terds.

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Glad I try not to post on here , look on it now and again,apart from khlav ,snowie ,victor meldrew and surprisingly the avenger there's a lot of drivel posted particularly by the great one vasty, I've never posted quotes vasty but it amazes me how you try and educate folk on here when its obvious from your posts that your knowledge of the game despite your claims is zilt

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Sorry to say something about the topic of the thread rather than a fellow poster, but I think that having Walshaw as back up for Collis (and Lynne) may have been a good idea for next year.
Hopefully Collis will have an injury free season and play all year, meaning on average he'll have played half a season in each of the last two!
Definitely a bright prospect for the future, but as has been posted, we don't know the financial dealings behind the scenes and if he wanted too much / Bradford were willing to pay out of our range, then so be it.
If the Board have a plan, after the last year, I'm behind them all the way.

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We do not know what goes on behind the scenes but maybe he was not committed to the cause knowing he was going elsewhere. I know some of you blame Kear others Agar but during Webster's reign I can't remember him being selected.
Let's not try to use this as an excuse to cover old ground, if he is a success at Bradford then the coaching team were wrong but only time will tell. I know some of you still lament the loss of Kay and use this as a comparison but I notice he is still in the championship with no reports of interest from any super league club.

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That view is stupid using Kay as an example he's on a decent contract with Leigh , also I'm sure he hopes to play super league with them, and as he's contracted a current super league team would have to pay a transfer think those reasons are why super league teams arnt showing interest not the reason your insinuating

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Quote: try scorer "That view is stupid using Kay as an example he's on a decent contract with Leigh , also I'm sure he hopes to play super league with them, and as he's contracted a current super league team would have to pay a transfer think those reasons are why super league teams arnt showing interest not the reason your insinuating'"


He recently signed a new contract does that not mean either he was available to other clubs or possibly just lacks ambition and decided to stay in the championship.

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cant help but feel there was a lot more to come from walshaw
he has always gone well when he played. real shamehe has left

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Quote: cheshirecat57 "Yeh we know it was on another thread, shame he never made the grade.'"


Shame he was never given a real chance to make the grade. Reece Lynne was so bad for so long it was incredible. fair play to Lynne he has seemingly got his act together in the past 3 months but my god he was bad. Why wasn't walshaw given even a fith of the time Lynne had. Walshaw is a super league standard player without doubt all he needs is the chance to prove it,

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I know some of you blame Kear others Agar but during Webster's reign I can't remember him being selected.'"


Played against London at home IIRC.

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Sorry scarlet still think your views are stupid, think the players ambitions match their clubs Kay with Leigh and walshaws now with Bradford both clubs going fulltime next year hence kays new contract that certainly shows ambition to me

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I thought I read, on here, that Walshaw had personal off-field issue that resulted in his lack of appearances during much of his time with us?
I've willed him to do well every time he has played but lets face it, even though he has the size, he was no Andy Kelly (2nd Row)or Richard Goddard (Centre) at a similar age and instantly they made 1st team appearances.

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