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We can't afford to sack Agar otherwise I am sure we would have done it by now. He isn't going to walk away of his own freewill because if he was an honourable man I am sure he would have done it by now. Therefore we are stuck with him.
Doers he employ the wrong tactics ? Or are the players not performing the tactics he wants ? Either way he has to make the choice to change the tactics or change the players if they are not doing what he wants. Just continuing to do things that haven't worked and don't work is not good enough.

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Quote: kyassor "We can't afford to sack Agar otherwise I am sure we would have done it by now. He isn't going to walk away of his own freewill because if he was an honourable man I am sure he would have done it by now. Therefore we are stuck with him.
Doers he employ the wrong tactics ? Or are the players not performing the tactics he wants ? Either way he has to make the choice to change the tactics or change the players if they are not doing what he wants. Just continuing to do things that haven't worked and don't work is not good enough.'"


Respect your opinion,but im not convinced we cant afford to sack him.Only a couple of weeks ago MC was saying there was still monies available to sign a couple more players and we had offers out for them.

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Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill

This is what Agar metaphorically needs to do now before it is too late. eusa_naughty.gif

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we need some one that can not only manage the players we need some one that can do it all and has done it all

we need John Kear back!

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I said along he not a first team coach he a number 2 that talks a brilliant game , for the love of god please go mr agar

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I like Agar, nice bloke and loves his rugby but his selections leave me scratching me head.

Mathers is not a winger as long as I have a hole in my booty, he shouldnt even be in the team. It reminds me of amateur teams where they stick the weakest player on the wing so to keep him out of the way.

Godinet started opening 8 games of the season at Scrum half, where he scored 6 tries and was forming a decent partnership with Sammut. Now he is an interchange hooker, with Sammut at Full back (sigh) and the godawful Siejka and bang average sykes forming our half backs.

Yesterday was a prime example of the effects of this, at no time when we got the ball did we ever look like putting a move together and creating gaps - it was turgid.

Smith gone to Fev as well - what is he playing at? Normally I assume that SL coaches know more than RL than me and trust their judgement but he simply confuses and annoys me.

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Quote: TrinityIHC "?.......
It reminds me of amateur teams where they stick the weakest player on the wing so to keep him out of the way.'"

Oi - that's where they used to stick me!! Mind you, I am as blind as a bat without my specs so you might be right!

Quote: TrinityIHC "?.....Normally I assume that SL coaches know more than RL than me and trust their judgement but he simply confuses and annoys me.'"

Could someone who knows more about RL than me tell me this. Would it be the coach or would Sammut do it off his own bat - 8 or 9 kick offs and every one identical, to the same area of the pitch, the same player etc (except the one that went dead of course)? Is that sound, sensible tactics or not?

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If we dont win both these next two games get shut! If do win them get shut at the end of the season. Better to pay him off and get some debt now rather than lose more fans for the long term. Could Webster step up to the role?

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Quote: Kevs Head "Oi - that's where they used to stick me!! Mind you, I am as blind as a bat without my specs so you might be right!

Could someone who knows more about RL than me tell me this. Would it be the coach or would Sammut do it off his own bat - 8 or 9 kick offs and every one identical, to the same area of the pitch, the same player etc (except the one that went dead of course)? Is that sound, sensible tactics or not?'"


Not sure about our respective knowledge levels but you only had to look at Warringtons set piece kicking yesterday, everything haring towards the sideline along the deck or at least chance of bouncing out. Even if it gives a few more meters it puts more pressure on the defenders and gives you a chance to retain possession.

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At the end of the season maybe, not sure mid season is a good idea to get rid of a coach especially with the position we are in at the moment.

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Quote: chissitt "At the end of the season maybe, not sure mid season is a good idea to get rid of a coach especially with the position we are in at the moment.'"


Its never a good idea mid season that's very true but what if we lose the next two games though, what do we do then because it could be too late.

It could well be Whitehaven time for us.

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Quote: El Rey "Its never a good idea mid season that's very true but what if we lose the next two games though, what do we do then because it could be too late.

It could well be Whitehaven time for us.'"


BUT what if we win the next two games, Whitehaven will undoubtedly be welcoming the Bulls, so long as we can match the Bulls' desire, determination and effort which was shown only by the Bulls at BV earlier on in the season we will be okay. Just a thought would we be having this thread if we still had Smith, Amor, Cockayne, Aiton, Mariano and Poore, surely that can't be his fault or can it?.

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Quote: chissitt "BUT what if we win the next two games, Whitehaven will undoubtedly be welcoming the Bulls, so long as we can match the Bulls' desire, determination and effort which was shown only by the Bulls at BV earlier on in the season we will be okay. Just a thought would we be having this thread if we still had Smith, Amor, Cockayne, Aiton, Mariano and Poore, surely that can't be his fault or can it?.'"


Nope we can't blame him for the loss of those players, fingers crossed then that you are right.

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Quote: El Rey "Nope we can't blame him for the loss of those players, fingers crossed then that you are right.'"


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Quote: El Rey "Its never a good idea mid season that's very true but what if we lose the next two games though, what do we do then because it could be too late.

It could well be Whitehaven time for us.'"


If we lose to Bradford and London it's 2006 all over again with Agar playing the role of Smith but who would be John Kear!

Before anyone says John Kear, no thanks
Dour rugby
Decimated the youth setup
His time is past

Morrison and JD don't have the necessary experience either so not them

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