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Sammut to stay at fullback for me. Siejka and Godinet in the halves. Sykes as cover for 1,3,4,6 and not in the 17 unless we have injuries. Mcshane starting and Wildie on the bench. Don't see the need for a specialist 13 or in our case washbrook, would play one of the second rowers there. So start with Walshaw, Ryan and Kirmo. With Annakin, Wildie and 2 props. Or we could play Mr T as a loose forward if all props are fit.

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we can expect a heavy defeat with plenty of errors and pens conceded - but with a few decent 5 or 10 min spells when we score so Agar can crow about positives and things to work on and probably say again we need time to gel.
Hull just beat Landan 40-4, difference will be, we'll score more than 4.

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Quote: vastman "Absolutely agree, utterly bizarre logic or weird dogma from said poster.

We have loads of S/R's. In Walshaw we have a big strong destructive Centre who can tackle - and a centre is what he has been most of his career.

Any other club would have had him in the centre a year ago. In Australia Walshaw would be considered a centre until he was about 25 then he'd move to the pack. Agar is happy to waste a player on a position we are well stocked and not use said player in a position he knows well.

To say Walshaw is more of a S/R than a Centre is tosh as every time he plays centre he looks bob on.

If Walshaw lack a bit of pace put a speedy winger on his outside - Riley or Lyne would do but we'd probably get Mathers.'"


Didn't I say this 2 years ago but you disagreed with me? Utilise a big strong centre, because you are big doesn't mean you are a second rower. He could be a real asset., We have wasted this lads career to be fair. Nothing would suprise me at Hull he will probably find himself out the squad or at second row. Agar is a joke and singles players out i.e. Siejka went well monday, thought Lynn had a good game. His signings he singles out. Mariano plenty of good games last year but all we got was one of signings that he singled out. Agar has to go, fed up with him.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Didn't I say this 2 years ago but you disagreed with me? Utilise a big strong centre, because you are big doesn't mean you are a second rower. He could be a real asset., We have wasted this lads career to be fair. Nothing would suprise me at Hull he will probably find himself out the squad or at second row. Agar is a joke and singles players out i.e. Siejka went well monday, thought Lynn had a good game. His signings he singles out. Mariano plenty of good games last year but all we got was one of signings that he singled out. Agar has to go, fed up with him.'"

its funny I know another lad that has had to put up with being played out of position and had his confidence totally rocked

I always remember Lee Crooks play at full back and then moving to the pack at later stage in his career

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i remember lee crooks standing at full back........

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Didn't I say this 2 years ago but you disagreed with me? Utilise a big strong centre, because you are big doesn't mean you are a second rower. He could be a real asset., We have wasted this lads career to be fair. Nothing would suprise me at Hull he will probably find himself out the squad or at second row. Agar is a joke and singles players out i.e. Siejka went well monday, thought Lynn had a good game. His signings he singles out. Mariano plenty of good games last year but all we got was one of signings that he singled out. Agar has to go, fed up with him.'"


Yes but the player you're on about wasn't Wallshaw.

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I have said all along Walshaw is a centre Vasty and you know it! Gets his stamina sorted he is a real asset. I would back the lad one on one over the line. Would you go with Riley or Mathers at fullback? Sammut we should be building around.

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Lynn a go at fullback anyone?
Sammut and Godinet halfs. Siejka interchange. Sykes no way near team same with Washbrook. No washbrook and Sykes for the London&Catalan&St Helens games we gel. Sammut at half back gelling just nicely but Agar messed it all up playing his boyfriends at Hull KR. Scrutton until he pulls his finger out I would send the lazy bum to Doncaster or somewhere. Tautai at loose forward. Mariano would go in that team great but our beloved coach didn't fancy a 26 year old physical machine that wasn't deadwood.

Lynn/Mathers/Riley
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Riley/Lynn
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Sammut
Moore
Mcshane
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Kirmond

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Kirmond isn't a LF.
My 17 when all are fit:

Sammut
Fox
Collis
Walshaw
Riley
Siejka
Godinet
Anderson
McShane
Moore
Ali/Ryan
Kirmond
Tautai

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "I have said all along Walshaw is a centre Vasty and you know it! Gets his stamina sorted he is a real asset. I would back the lad one on one over the line. Would you go with Riley or Mathers at fullback? Sammut we should be building around.'"


It was Marriano but hey - common consent suggested Walshaw was destined for SR and he probably is, but we are short of centres and he has played Centre a lot so why waste it - he was happy to play Ryan there.

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Anybody that can predict what RFA will do should be winning the lottery every week . Even though Lubey outplayed the current England centre there will be no guarantee he will even be in the squad or even not at Dewsbury . To put a performance in as he did with the mouth injury he has was brilliant. Even after the way he as been treated by RFA with the 10 mins substitutions and the public name calling at a forum ,( 7 min WALSHAW) he is still prepared to put his body on the line. It makes me wonder if RFA wasn’t allowed to ditch every player TD & RH produced how are squad would be performing now with some ( Danny Cowling , Jordan Grayston  Mattie Wildie ) of our OWN in it.

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If everyone was fit and available

Full Back Jowitt
Wing Swann
Centre Collis
Centre Walshaw
Wing Lynne
Stand Off Sammutt
Scrum Half Godinet
Prop Anderson
Hooker McShane
Prop Moore
Second Row Kirmond
Second Row Ryan
Loose Forward Tautai

Sub Wildey
Sub Annakin
Sub Smith
Sub Lauitiiti

Big and creative team full of commitment to the cause and/or the jersey
Message we'll and truly delivered to Mathers, Scruton, Washbrook and Fox that putting your body on the line is a prerequisite of being a Rugby League player at any level and because you're not doing it you're dropped: note: not rotated/rested/injured but DROPPED!

Sykes doesn't fall into that bracket IMO, he's beginning to look his age and can't quite do what he used to.

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Quote: The Dreadnought "Kirmond isn't a LF.
My 17 when all are fit

Sorry my error Tautai swapped round for Kirmond. I would try Tautai at loose forward

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Quote: The Avenger "If everyone was fit and available

Full Back Jowitt
Wing Swann
Centre Collis
Centre Walshaw
Wing Lynne
Stand Off Sammutt
Scrum Half Godinet
Prop Anderson
Hooker McShane
Prop Moore
Second Row Kirmond
Second Row Ryan
Loose Forward Tautai

Looks a great side to me Avenger, out with the consistent underperformers and in with a mixture of youth, experience and all the grafters. If only this coach knew how to coach we'd be competing every week instead of getting thumped by everyone we play.
Sub Wildey
Sub Annakin
Sub Smith
Sub Lauitiiti

Big and creative team full of commitment to the cause and/or the jersey
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Quote: The Avenger "If everyone was fit and available

Full Back Jowitt
Wing Swann
Centre Collis
Centre Walshaw
Wing Lynne
Stand Off Sammutt
Scrum Half Godinet
Prop Anderson
Hooker McShane
Prop Moore
Second Row Kirmond
Second Row Ryan
Loose Forward Tautai


Sub Wildey
Sub Annakin
Sub Smith
Sub Lauitiiti

Big and creative team full of commitment to the cause and/or the jersey
Message we'll and truly delivered to Mathers, Scruton, Washbrook and Fox that putting your body on the line is a prerequisite of being a Rugby League player at any level and because you're not doing it you're dropped

Looks a great side to me Avenger, a nice mixture of youth, experience and all the grafters. Kick out the underperformers and make them earn their place. Too many lately being picked without merit. If only we had a coach who could see it?

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