Great first post.

This season is about avoiding relegation and this team is good enough to do that. Bradford was a bad performance but a for today , who was expecting us to beat SL champions Wigan with a new team and a number of injuries?

New team it maybe, but still there are stupid, idiotic team selections, poor defensive decisions, poor ball retentions, basically we are still seeing the same mistakes from 3 bloody years ago. And this is the season where it will cost us if it is allowed to continue!

Too right

Example Shaun Briscoe face like a brocken clogg, Mathers looks nice, make up and creams, result Briscoe puts is body on the line, Mathers is hand bag if you get my drift

It's not the fact we lost its the way a number of players performed following on from the Bradford game that is a concern along with team selection and use of subs again. How is it that a 17 year old can do be expected to do a straight 30 min stint but walshaw can't do a total of 30 mins. We need Wildie on the bench as McShane is not an 80 min player and would imo be more effective if spelled.

We need to be cutting out the basic errors we make and silly penalties we concede. Play for field position more instead of trying to score off every play, but not kicking possession away on the 3rd tackle when we have hardly had the ball etc.

Teams/players if inferior to their opposition will make more mistakes, give more penaltie away....

We have the squad of players we have because of the clubs resources....it's a miles better squad than many of us could have dreamed of months ago when our financial plight became apparent....

Against Bradford we were dire, but for me all the ingredients were there for that performance/result to happen....today, we've gone to the team that did the double last year and played (and gave a good account of themselves) in the World Club Challenge last week......result.....we got beat by 22 points...

Still very, very early days....there's been good signs (and bad) the last thing the club/players need is all the negative stuff tht's going on from impatient fans....it's gonna take time....get behind the lads and show them our support....might just be the slight difference in pushing us to a win rather than a loss...

These are the players we've got.....it's what our budget has allowed us to field.....for all the stick Richie Mathers is getting at the moment, he's played 250 odd top flight games more than anyone who posts on this board.....a fullback playing behind a well beaten team is never going to look great....Billy Slater would look poor playing for us at the moment.....I've seen Mathers have good games for us....poor aswell......maybe he's out of form and struggling for a bit of confidence....like a few others? It's a dark place when you're low on confidence.....it's what we have though so we need to support....

Michael said the other day that is it....this is the squad we have to work with, so we need to back him and the players....it was always going to be a hell of a tough season considering circumstances of the last 6 months....to see so many throwing the towel in 3 games in is desperately disappointing....is it any wonder players are coming across that way on the field?

well well well.

I haven't posted for a while and only do when I feel really strong about something

1, ok Agar has shortcomings and selection today is baffling which may need explanations but as ordinary FANS we don't know who was injured or who was preserved for later in the season so lets be realistic

does Agar drop the ball NO, does he try catch a ball that others should be taking NO, does he give away silly penalties No so its not all his fault....

does he have a right to drop players YES, does he have the right to pick the team YES, does he need to change things YES. so he can change things that's his job and he has to do this.....

no more picking his favourites if they don't perform, look at CAS and I hate saying that but Powell is doing a great job and keeping his squad keen, if certain players at wakefield didn't play every week regardless they may buck up their ideas,

after all im only a long suffering fan, but my club has picked off two of Bradfords best players over the last couple of weeks so behind the scenes things are looking up, I didn't expect to win today so a loss and rest for key players may be ok in the long run,

should we lose the next two then bring on the firing squad, admittedly i do think a team selection needs looking at and as a poor layman I would drop Mathers and Lyne, play Briscoe on the wing (his real position) and never ever ruin walshaw by playing him up front again, give the lad a chance in his best position not as a fill in cos someone is injured.

1, Mather out -- Sykes
2, Fox - with confidence is a good player
3, Collis - while banned try Walshaw
4, Keinhorst - While injured Ryan/Kirmond
5, Briscoe
6, Sammutt - Class
7, Godinet - Will be good when he settles
8, Scruton - just whats needed
9, Mcshane - needs to relax and not try do too much
10, Anderson/Moore/Smith - Smith at the minute lad is going to be a star
11. Kirmond - Danny you are Captain but just play your own game
12, Ryan - if not at centre otherwise Tautai to start until opposition tire
13, Annakin - but until the force is with us - then we have to play washbrook even if as a tackler

14-15-16-17- two props, Wildie (is he injured ??) and Lauititti (this man can change a game but not off the bench)

ok guys shoot me down now-----

what a good post are you Tim Sheerwood or Wayne Bennett, i claim my fiver

When you talk about budgets all we can afford 4overseas players3domestic players in sammut, mcshane and scruton since the start of the season doesn't seem to me like a club that's skint sorry these players or their wages won't be cheap so I for one don't buy that as an excuse,but eh what do I know

Slightly OT but what is the hype with Salford? They have an outdated coach and are terrible through the core of their team. 9, 7, 13 & 1 are poor, Meli has the mobility of the QE2. Real missed opportunity in game 1 for Trinity.

No chance of top 4 and I would be surprised if they made top 6.

I picked them as an extreme example of a new team that were put together but benefitted from all the advantages we didn't but have still produced indifferent performances. The hype comes from the press and their chairman. I am sure most of you do not expect them to be in the relegation battle. Their first three performances say they will but the team they have put together says not. I would suspect that unlike your own team you will give Salford the benefit of the doubt and expect them to come good surely Wakefield should be given the same consideration without the need for all these rabid posts.

Absolutely naff all about our budget. Next question?

Really annoyed me this weekend that I've heard people saying that things can't really have been all that bad last august. We'd have been better off not signing sammut and scruton because suddenly all sense of proportion has gone out of the window.
We let smith go and got sammut in at less net cost! We got the signing on fee from sky. Paid a whole load of debts and allocated some of it to bring scruton in. Things are still extremely tight. There will be no more in unless players go out first.
We've tried to give ourselves the very best chance of avoiding relegation whilst making sure by the year end that all debts will have been cleared.

So far we have lost to a salford side with 13 debutants, less 'gelled' than our own, and one who lost their star signing injured early on. Then to a Bradford side in turmoil, one who had just sold their star player to us. Now Wigan, a team who were without plenty of first team players and have just travelled back from the other side of the world. All 3 games were there for the taking but we never, bar a good 30 minute spell at salford, looked like getting near a win. But the most worrying thing is the lack of improvement through those games up to press. We look many weeks away from being a competitive side but we don't have that long. Make no bones about it, Catalans and London will be targeting us as a chance to get their own seasons up and running. We need to be an awful lot better otherwise we will get found out. We can't wait 6 weeks to come good, by then we will be in deep you know what. We need improvement NOW and we need points on the board. If we get the required improvements then Agar has done his job and people should allow him to get on with things. But if we carry on making the same basic errors and looking ridiculously disjointed then maybe he is not the man for the job. Richard, over to you.

That is absolutely crazy to think that Sammut - one of last season's most potent attacking players - costs less than Lee Smith!

Smith must have one hell of an agent